(Thread) Interesting factoids about presidential elections.

[Del Tachi]

In 2016 Trump got more votes in New York City than he did the entire state of Utah.

[Del Tachi]

I'm a little curious and I figured some people on here have more time than I do.. Were there any Gore/Bush/Obama/Romney/Trump counties? If so, what states were they concentrated in?

Jefferson County, WV comes close, having narrowly gone for Bush in 2000

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

I'm a little curious and I figured some people on here have more time than I do.. Were there any Gore/Bush/Obama/Romney/Trump counties? If so, what states were they concentrated in?

Jefferson County, WV comes close, having narrowly gone for Bush in 2000.

Cambria County, Pennsylvania

Gallatin County, Illinois

[morgankingsley]

I know there is a separate thread about this fact and that it was probably mentioned once or twice already, but I like this fact so whatever. 1976 was the last time the democrat won more counties and 1896 was the last time the democrat won more counties but the republican won anyways

[Joe McCarthy Was Right]

Harris County and Dallas County have voted for the same candidate in every election except 1872.

[darklordoftech]

Starting in 1960, a higher percentage of women have voted Democratic than men with the exception of 1976.

[Joe McCarthy Was Right]

I'm a little curious and I figured some people on here have more time than I do.. Were there any Gore/Bush/Obama/Romney/Trump counties? If so, what states were they concentrated in?

Iron County MI (upper peninsula)
Alpena County MI
Buchanan County MO
Washington County MO
Macoupin County IL
Pulaski County IL
Montgomery County IL
Macon County IL
Gallatin County IL

Quite a few in the Midwest.

[darklordoftech]

Brutal honesty seems to be a losing strategy, as evidenced by Humphrey in 1968 ("there's still work to be done in Vietnam"), Carter in 1980 ("wear a sweater"), and Hillary in 2016 ("your jobs will never come back").

[Intell]

Brutal honesty seems to be a losing strategy, as evidenced by Humphrey in 1968 ("there's still work to be done in Vietnam"), Carter in 1980 ("wear a sweater"), and Hillary in 2016 ("your jobs will never come back").

"I'll raise you taxes, so will he, he won't tell you about it. I just did"- Mondale 1984.

[darklordoftech]

Brutal honesty seems to be a losing strategy, as evidenced by Humphrey in 1968 ("there's still work to be done in Vietnam"), Carter in 1980 ("wear a sweater"), and Hillary in 2016 ("your jobs will never come back").

"I'll raise you taxes, so will he, he won't tell you about it. I just did"- Mondale 1984.

That too.

[mianfei]

• In 1972, George McGovern lost all but 206 counties (excluding DC and Alaska) by at least 5 percentage points. No other major party nominee has failed to carry 206 counties.
• Seven non-national major party nominees since 1836 have won more than 206 counties, the most recent being George Wallace in 1968.
• McGovern lost all but 317 counties by at least 10 percentage points. Apart from Taft in 1912 when the Republican Party was divided, no other major party nominee has ever failed to win 317 counties.
• McGovern gained an absolute majority in only 112 counties.

What’s remarkable is that – again excluding AK and DC – 112 is the minimum number of counties required in that 1972 election to cast half the total presidential vote!

[morgankingsley]

Coolidge only won 6 more counties than LaFollete in Minnesota, and a swing of 54 votes would have given LaFollette more counties than Coolidge in Minnesota (44 LaFollete to 43 Coolidge) despite losing by nearly 10 percent statewide

[morgankingsley]

1976 was the first time in American history where both candidates eventually would become the longest lived president in the history of the United States. Gerald Ford held the record from November 2006 to November 2017. Jimmy Carter got the record in March 22 2019. Only once has this happened since, in 1980, which also involved Carter

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

Carbon County, which was Lyndon Johnson's best county in Utah, was the only Utahn county that swung and trended towards Trump.

[WithLeast]

1968 was the first time a Republican won without winning Minnesota.
1916 was the last time a Democrat won without winning Minnesota.

[darklordoftech]

John Kerry was Lieutenant Governor under Michael Dukakis. Dukakis and Kerry were both defeated by a Bush in a Presidential election.

[Some of My Best Friends Are Gay]

Starting in 1960, a higher percentage of women have voted Democratic than men with the exception of 1976.

Why was this different in 1976?

[darklordoftech]

Starting in 1960, a higher percentage of women have voted Democratic than men with the exception of 1976.

Why was this different in 1976?

I don't know. Ford also won with young voters.

[morgankingsley]

Despite winning every county in Massachusetts in 2000, Al Gore is the only democrat since 1996 to not get at least 60 percent of the vote in the state

Speaking of Massachusetts, it is also one of only six states that neither McCain nor Obama won in the primaries.

And one more about Massachusetts. In both 1980 and 1984, it was the closest state that Ronald Reagan won, and on both elections, would have turned to Mondale and Carter with ease had he been a worse campaigner

[Senator Incitatus]

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Starting in 1960, a higher percentage of women have voted Democratic than men with the exception of 1976.

Why was this different in 1976?

I don't know. Ford also won with young voters.
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People underestimate how strongly Carter campaigned as two-steps-short-of-George-Wallace.

[darklordoftech]

People underestimate how strongly Carter campaigned as two-steps-short-of-George-Wallace.

What do you mean?

Despite winning every county in Massachusetts in 2000, Al Gore is the only democrat since 1996 to not get at least 60 percent of the vote in the state

Do you think that whatever caused Kerry to win New Hampshire in spite of Gore loosing it also gave Kerry 60% in Massachusettes?

[TDAS04]

Orange County, CA and Orange County, FL--after long streaks of voting Republican, (beginning in 1940 for CA and 1948 for FL)--finally voted Democratic in 2016 and 2000, respectively.  Democrats lost both those elections, in spite of winning the PV.  These two counties are also the homes of Disneyland and Disney World, respectively.

[Some of My Best Friends Are Gay]

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Starting in 1960, a higher percentage of women have voted Democratic than men with the exception of 1976.

Why was this different in 1976?

I don't know. Ford also won with young voters.

People underestimate how strongly Carter campaigned as two-steps-short-of-George-Wallace.
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I'm not aware of Carter using any dog whistles or particularly trying to make race-based appeals to racists, but maybe I'm wrong.

[SingingAnalyst]

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Starting in 1960, a higher percentage of women have voted Democratic than men with the exception of 1976.

Why was this different in 1976?

I don't know. Ford also won with young voters.

People underestimate how strongly Carter campaigned as two-steps-short-of-George-Wallace.

I'm not aware of Carter using any dog whistles or particularly trying to make race-based appeals to racists, but maybe I'm wrong.
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It's an interesting statement nonetheless. I doubt Carter would have won 85-90% of the Black vote had he made race-based appeals to white racists a significant part of his campaign. Carter's Deep Southern Evangelicalism may have turned him off among more secular young voters and pro-choice women, even as the GOP was tanking in the nation as a whole. In Brookline, MA, for example (considered to be a very left-liberal town), Carter only won 55.5% in 1976 compared to McGovern's 62.4%. In 1984, Mondale won 69.2% there.

[SingingAnalyst]

2000 is the only election both Macomb, MI and Oakland, MI backed a losing Democrat for President.