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« on: June 18, 2017, 01:15:21 am »

Link to the old thread: http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=155115.0



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Mr[.] Macron offers a fresh answer to the popular discontent that has swept through Western democracies. He promises a new politics that ditches divisions between left and right. He wants to restore dynamism and self-belief to France and, with Germany’s help, to the European Union. And he is being watched from abroad by politicians who, in their own countries, cannot seem to make themselves heard above the din. For his revolution to succeed, he needs to have good ideas and the ability to carry them through. Does he?

Whereas most populists cleave to right and left, the Macron revolution is to the centre. He steals policies without prejudice—from the right, a desire to free up markets and businesses to create jobs and wealth; from the left, a belief in the role of government to shape, direct and protect. In the battle between open and closed, Mr[.] Macron is broadly for open in both trade and immigration. In French terms, he is an economic liberal.
http://www.economist.com/node/21723410
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2017, 03:10:53 am »

What a boring thread name. People had plenty of better suggestions.
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2017, 05:21:29 am »

What a boring thread name. People had plenty of better suggestions.

Like The Dawn of Shakarron Macaron?
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2017, 07:26:50 am »

What a boring thread name. People had plenty of better suggestions.

Would you prefer: The Destruction of the Party of Antonio V?
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2017, 10:50:53 am »

What a boring thread name. People had plenty of better suggestions.

Would you prefer: The Destruction of the Party of Antonio V?

'Tout doit disparaître' would be even more fitting.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2017, 12:33:57 pm »

What a boring thread name. People had plenty of better suggestions.

Would you prefer: The Destruction of the Party of Antonio V?

I decided to arbitrarily settle this myself but keep suggesting, by all means Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2017, 03:19:00 am »

As usual after a legislative election the government resigned, Philippe was immediately renamed as PM.

But so far two major change in the next government: Richard Ferrand will leave to join the National Assembly as leader of LREM deputies and this morning Sylvie Goulard (Defense minister) has resigned to defend herself over allegation of MoDem's fake jobs in the EU Parliament.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2017, 06:25:14 am »

What a boring thread name. People had plenty of better suggestions.

Would you prefer: The Destruction of the Party of Antonio V?

I decided to arbitrarily settle this myself but keep suggesting, by all means Tongue

Y'en a Ma(rre)cron

Best I could do, sorry Sad
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2017, 12:56:34 pm »

What a boring thread name. People had plenty of better suggestions.

Would you prefer: The Destruction of the Party of Antonio V?

I decided to arbitrarily settle this myself but keep suggesting, by all means Tongue

Don't worry - two can play at that game.

Now, in all seriousness, I'm looking forward to macroneconomics. What are the odds of Macron getting most of his economic agenda passed in the first year or so?
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2017, 01:08:03 pm »

What a boring thread name. People had plenty of better suggestions.

Would you prefer: The Destruction of the Party of Antonio V?

I decided to arbitrarily settle this myself but keep suggesting, by all means Tongue

Don't worry - two can play at that game.

I can't think of anything else, so you have my blessing.
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2017, 05:50:18 pm »

I like the new title. Appropriately optimistic. Tongue

Also, kudos for not forgetting the circumflex accent!
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2017, 01:16:01 am »

Bayrou and De Sarnez will also leave the government.
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2017, 12:30:51 pm »

Bayrou and De Sarnez will also leave the government.
I was shocked about Bayrou. Trouble in paradise already between LREM and MoDem?
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2017, 01:12:05 pm »

Bayrou and De Sarnez will also leave the government.
I was shocked about Bayrou. Trouble in paradise already between LREM and MoDem?
No, there is a judicial enquiry against MoDem over some fake jobs allegations, Bayrou, as chief of MoDem, is directly involved (same for Goulard and De Sarnez).

The new government is totally in the spirit of the title of this topic:
-no major political figure (except Le Drian)
-2/3 of the members of the government come form civil society
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2017, 12:53:48 pm »

Some news today:

-De Rugy has been elected President of the national Assembly, Valls will seat with LREM group but not as a full member of LREM.
-25 senators form a LREM group in the Senate, the number could rise
-Macon has invited Trump for Bastille Day.
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2017, 06:51:14 am »

RIP Simone Veil
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2017, 12:06:40 pm »

RIP Simone Veil

Yeah, RIP FF.
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2017, 01:37:30 pm »


Meh, you missed the time she walked with Christine Boutin to oppose gay marriage?
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2017, 02:27:22 pm »


Meh, you missed the time she walked with Christine Boutin to oppose gay marriage?

I mean, she's not my kind of politician and I'd never have voted for her or anything, but her legacy for women's rights remains invaluable.
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2017, 05:43:33 am »

Simone Veil was out of public life in 2013, so we didn't hear exactly why she opposed to gay marriage, but this is what she said about homosexuality.
"How would you react if one of your son told you that he lives with a man?
-I'll invite them for dinner. The deportation made me think a lot about homosexuality, if there was homosexual relationships in the camps it's the proof that there was still some love, some humanity"
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2017, 01:03:41 pm »

"Emmanuel Macron assassination plot foiled by French police"

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A man has been charged with plotting to assassinate French President Emmanuel Macron on Bastille Day during US President Donald Trump's visit to France, a spokeswoman for the Paris Prosecutor's office said Monday.

Spokeswoman Agnès Thibault-Lecuivre told CNN a 23-year-old suspect had been arrested.
Investigators said the man planned to attack Macron on July 14, during an parade on the Champs-Élysées in Paris, where President Trump is set to be a guest of honor, according to public service radio broadcaster, France Info.

The suspect was arrested on Wednesday in the north-west Paris suburb of Argenteuil by anti-terror services, and was charged with "individual terrorist activity" on Saturday.

A self described far right nationalist, the man told police he wanted to make a political statement by killing Macron, CNN affiliate BFMTV reported.

He also said he wanted to attack, "blacks, Arabs, Jews and homosexuals," according to police documents seen by BFMTV.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/03/europe/macron-assassination-plot-foiled/index.html
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2017, 02:46:18 pm »

Quote from: Guardian
Macron repeated his promise to slash the number of members of parliament by one third and hold a referendum on it if parliament did not approve. He promised to give citizens more power to use petitions to get key topics discussed in parliament and to add a “dose” of proportional representation to French parliament – without giving further detail.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/03/emmanuel-macron-to-set-out-his-vision-for-french-renaissance

What might that mean? Mixed-member proportional?
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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2017, 03:52:56 pm »

Quote from: Guardian
Macron repeated his promise to slash the number of members of parliament by one third and hold a referendum on it if parliament did not approve. He promised to give citizens more power to use petitions to get key topics discussed in parliament and to add a “dose” of proportional representation to French parliament – without giving further detail.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/03/emmanuel-macron-to-set-out-his-vision-for-french-renaissance

What might that mean? Mixed-member proportional?

It means he'll forget about it a couple months from now and never bring it up again.
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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2017, 12:29:41 am »

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Macron repeated his promise to slash the number of members of parliament by one third and hold a referendum on it if parliament did not approve. He promised to give citizens more power to use petitions to get key topics discussed in parliament and to add a “dose” of proportional representation to French parliament – without giving further detail.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/03/emmanuel-macron-to-set-out-his-vision-for-french-renaissance

What might that mean? Mixed-member proportional?

It means he'll forget about it a couple months from now and never bring it up again.

So in his first major public address he said that the Parliament has to pass this reform within a year or he will call a reform, but he will drop this in two months? Yeah, sure, it would be a great way to sabotage himself.
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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2017, 06:30:26 am »

The term 'dose' seems to me that whatever is passed (or indeed proposed and then lost in the shuffle) will be some form of additional member system of top-up members.

Also lol at the typical bargain basement populist "what if we just cut the number of MP's!!!".
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