France General Discussion III: Tout doit disparaître

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What a boring thread name. People had plenty of better suggestions.

Like The Dawn of Shakarron Macaron?

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What a boring thread name. People had plenty of better suggestions.

Would you prefer: The Destruction of the Party of Antonio V?

I decided to arbitrarily settle this myself but keep suggesting, by all means

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What a boring thread name. People had plenty of better suggestions.

Would you prefer: The Destruction of the Party of Antonio V?

I decided to arbitrarily settle this myself but keep suggesting, by all means

Don't worry - two can play at that game.

I can't think of anything else, so you have my blessing.

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RIP Simone Veil

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Also lol at the typical bargain basement populist "what if we just cut the number of MP's!!!".

God I hate that refrain. Hate Hate Hate Hate HATE. I'd vote against the whole proposal even if I agreed with everything else.

I'm also against this, but the idea is not "if we cut 100 MPs we will save 2 millions per year" but to reduce the number of MPs and to keep the same budget to give more power to the MPs (to hire more assistants, etc.)

The don't need to give "more power" to individual MPs. If anything we need to give less power to individual MPs while increasing the power of the parliament as a collective. And more importantly, guaranteeing meaningful representation by not having MPs be elected in giant constituencies.

If you really want to cut the number of MPs, just abolish the Senate for f**k's sake.

Heh. the French Senate is basically one big rotten borough, isn't it?

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Time to pull the plug on PS, just as it was done with SFIO.

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My governing party sucks so much I'd gladly take someone like Macron over them anytime.

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What about a curcial part of the electorate: Cheminade's voters?

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whoa whoa whoa.....60% of the cost of fuel in France is tax.  On top of all the other taxes you pay, no wonder regular folk are pissed.  A gas tax doesn't really hurt rich folks living in cities too much, but the "sans dents" take it in the gut.  They take in the gut enough, eventually they'll come for the ones punching them.


The French need tax relief and loosened economic rules.

Well, that's effectively killed any movement toward a nationwide carbon tax here in the United States if there ever was one.  What Democratic trifecta wants to deal with a taxpayer revolt? 

see, there is some good news!

Well, 60% of gas costs being taxes is not exactly uncommon for European standards, here for example 58% of gasoline and 56% of diesel costs are taxes.

I'd say it's a good way to try to discourage car usage though it might need some other compensation like better public transportation or something.

Fun fact: The last French President to be reelected was Chirac in 2002 and he was facing Le Pen anyways (maybe against Jospin he loses).

The last French President to be reelected without facing Le Pen was Mitterrand all the way back in 1988!

The hillarious thing Mitterrand was the one propping up Le Pen and FN in order to divide the right in first place.

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New thread:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=316342