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« Reply #700 on: June 20, 2017, 08:47:37 PM »

Anyone recall the Quist-Gianforte thread when a dozen or so users assured us that running a Clintonite centrist instead of a populist was this magic elixir that could win over GA-06 a la John Bel Edwards? If Democrats continue to pursue the same trodden path they did in 2016, there's no shot in hell they manifest some "blue tide" in two years.
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« Reply #701 on: June 20, 2017, 08:47:41 PM »

I knew something like this was coming. Republicans gerrymander. Everyone does. Not one gives a s*** about fairness when you can give your party control of the country.

The Democrat party gerrymandered us from the 1960s thru 1994 and they are squealing when we retaliate.
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« Reply #702 on: June 20, 2017, 08:47:45 PM »

Worst part of a Handle victory (besides the inevitable obnoxious Trump tweets) would be Republicans in Congress feeling far more confident about going through with Ocare repeal. Everything else is secondary - still nothing to suggest anything but a positive environment for Dems and morale may dip for a little while but rebound soon enough.

For me that would be the best part ...

Great! For tens of millions of Americans it would prove disastrous.
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« Reply #703 on: June 20, 2017, 08:47:49 PM »

Karen Handel (Republican)  53.4% 109,433
Jon Ossoff (Democratic)  46.6% 95,664

205,097 Total Votes
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« Reply #704 on: June 20, 2017, 08:47:55 PM »

People get the government they deserve, period.

I like Ossoff's style. Moderate Democrat. Win or lose, he'll be a star for Georgia Democrats. Barack Obama lost to Bobby Rush in IL-1 2000 Democratic primary.
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« Reply #705 on: June 20, 2017, 08:48:07 PM »

You might gain some that way, but you might also lose some.  I know some GA-6 voters who were attracted by his attempt to run a civil campaign, especially after all the negativity last year.

And we see how much that counted for.

It's time for Democrats to embrace GOP-style tactics of personal destruction. Stop being a bunch of pussies and do what it takes to win. The Obama 2012 campaign was a step in the right direction.
Yes Democrats need to go full Fox news in 2018. Make stuff up about the canidate in an ad and give a low profile apology.
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« Reply #706 on: June 20, 2017, 08:48:19 PM »

So in all 4 congressional special elections, the Democrats got 44-48% of the vote, yet the Republicans win 4-0 in terms of seats. A six year old can see that's not fair.
Huh
A two year old can understand that 1 person who does better than the other wins

There were eight people.
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« Reply #707 on: June 20, 2017, 08:48:26 PM »

Wait, so did Handel improve upon Trump's margin?

yeah but that comparison was BS to start with, since price won by a landslide at the same time.
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« Reply #708 on: June 20, 2017, 08:48:31 PM »
« Edited: June 20, 2017, 08:51:23 PM by MT Treasurer »

It's time for Democrats to embrace GOP-style tactics of personal destruction.

Yeah, because the Clinton campaign totally didn't try this strategy in 2016?

Anyway,

Karen Handel (Republican)    52.4%   114,856
Jon Ossoff (Democratic)    47.6%   104,398
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« Reply #709 on: June 20, 2017, 08:49:08 PM »

If Democrats think they're going to be taking the House in 2018, this is a district they'll likely need to win.  This is supposed to be their brand new "winning coalition" of educated whites.  Epic fail, IF they have in fact lost.

I'm not so sure that winning Republican districts is going to help Democrats.  What Ds need are swing seats and a fair redistricting process for 2022.  They might not win back the House until 2022 when a new map is produced.
"fair"

As opposed to whatever you call this:

I knew something like this was coming. Republicans gerrymander. Everyone does. Not one gives a s*** about fairness when you can give your party control of the country.

Don't come at us with that drivel. Let me know when Republicans have to win the popular House vote by 10 points to have a chance at a majority. This country is absolutely nuts.
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« Reply #710 on: June 20, 2017, 08:49:23 PM »

Anyone recall the Quist-Gianforte thread when a dozen or so users assured us that running a Clintonite centrist instead of a populist was this magic elixir that could win over GA-06 a la John Bel Edwards? If Democrats continue to pursue the same trodden path they did in 2016, there's no shot in hell they manifest some "blue tide" in two years.
So if the populist in MT lost and the Clintonite in GA lost, then which Democrat wins?
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« Reply #711 on: June 20, 2017, 08:49:53 PM »

Worst part of a Handle victory (besides the inevitable obnoxious Trump tweets) would be Republicans in Congress feeling far more confident about going through with Ocare repeal. Everything else is secondary - still nothing to suggest anything but a positive environment for Dems and morale may dip for a little while but rebound soon enough.

People deserve what they vote for.

Not to attack any of you directly, but many of us here in the small rural states are going to see our insurance rates go up by a lot more than those in more densely populated areas. It's a damn shame to see many of my neighbors going to struggle to find decent health insurance they can afford.

It really does suck that a rich suburban district in Georgia will end up affecting thousands here in the plains.

Did your neighbors in South Dakota not vote for those people by overwhelming margins too?

They do, but what I meant to say was how a Handel victory gives the senate republicans some reassurance that passing a repeal is a-ok.  
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« Reply #712 on: June 20, 2017, 08:50:13 PM »

Ossoff 73% DeKalb mail in
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« Reply #713 on: June 20, 2017, 08:50:18 PM »

Anyone recall the Quist-Gianforte thread when a dozen or so users assured us that running a Clintonite centrist instead of a populist was this magic elixir that could win over GA-06 a la John Bel Edwards? If Democrats continue to pursue the same trodden path they did in 2016, there's no shot in hell they manifest some "blue tide" in two years.
So if the populist in MT lost and the Clintonite in GA lost, then which Democrat wins?

Maybe in seats that are less red than these ones?
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« Reply #714 on: June 20, 2017, 08:50:24 PM »

Has anyone mentioned that if the margin does end up 6-7 points, which is fairly comfortable that the polls yet again, got it pretty wrong? This was literally supposed to razor tight. It could be, but if not, the polls yet again were brutal.
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« Reply #715 on: June 20, 2017, 08:50:27 PM »

Wait, so did Handel improve upon Trump's margin?

yeah but that comparison was BS to start with, since price won by a landslide at the same time.

But Price was the incumbent.  I  still agree this is a slightly positive night for Dems despite two near misses.
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« Reply #716 on: June 20, 2017, 08:50:47 PM »

Don't come at us with that drivel. Let me know when Republicans have to win the popular House vote by 10 points to have a chance at a majority. This country is absolutely nuts.
Gerrymandering sucks. I want it gone. I'm not pro-GM
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« Reply #717 on: June 20, 2017, 08:51:01 PM »

If Democrats are going to complain about Gerrymandering, they should have tried to be a little less horrible last time redistricting came around.  They shoved something down the American people's throats that they absolutely did not want, and now they pay the price.  Too bad.
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« Reply #718 on: June 20, 2017, 08:51:04 PM »

Dave Wasserman just tweeted that absentee ballots in DeKalb are not enough for Ossoff.
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« Reply #719 on: June 20, 2017, 08:51:13 PM »

Anyone recall the Quist-Gianforte thread when a dozen or so users assured us that running a Clintonite centrist instead of a populist was this magic elixir that could win over GA-06 a la John Bel Edwards? If Democrats continue to pursue the same trodden path they did in 2016, there's no shot in hell they manifest some "blue tide" in two years.
So if the populist in MT lost and the Clintonite in GA lost, then which Democrat wins?
The one who didn't spend $20 million
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« Reply #720 on: June 20, 2017, 08:51:30 PM »

Anyone recall the Quist-Gianforte thread when a dozen or so users assured us that running a Clintonite centrist instead of a populist was this magic elixir that could win over GA-06 a la John Bel Edwards? If Democrats continue to pursue the same trodden path they did in 2016, there's no shot in hell they manifest some "blue tide" in two years.
So if the populist in MT lost and the Clintonite in GA lost, then which Democrat wins?

Maybe in seats that are less red than these ones?
I mean that seriously: which road do the Democrats take all across
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« Reply #721 on: June 20, 2017, 08:51:43 PM »

It's time for Democrats to embrace GOP-style tactics of personal destruction.

Yeah, because the Clinton campaign totally didn't try this strategy in 2016?

Anyway,

Karen Handel (Republican)    53.4%   109,433
Jon Ossoff (Democratic)    46.6%   95,664

Listen. Both parties play nasty, dirty politics. It's called politics. Even some swing voters are drawn to negative politics.

Negative politics can lower turnout and grow voter apathy, because policy isn't being discussed, and it could increase it because people like innuendo. It's 50-50.
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« Reply #722 on: June 20, 2017, 08:51:49 PM »


Yeah, but that is his best county.  This is not enough.
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« Reply #723 on: June 20, 2017, 08:51:52 PM »


OK, that's enough info for me to say this is over. Not good enough in the mail-ins for Ossoff.
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« Reply #724 on: June 20, 2017, 08:51:54 PM »

Don't come at us with that drivel. Let me know when Republicans have to win the popular House vote by 10 points to have a chance at a majority. This country is absolutely nuts.

North Carolina House elections 2010...

The GOP gets 54% of the vote and 6 districts.
The Dems get 45% of the vote and 7 districts.
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