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WillK
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« on: July 27, 2009, 07:08:48 am »

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This is completely false.  Bogus.  Bullsh**t. 


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For that reason i would think you would consider Jefferson the worst president, since he made Lincoln's actions possible.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2009, 12:34:07 pm »

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This is completely false.  Bogus.  Bullsh**t. 

You do realize that West Point taught secession as a legal option for states up until the Civil War.

I do not realize it becuase it is not a true statement. 
 
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2009, 02:33:51 pm »


Democrat
Andrew Jackson
Martin Van Buren
James K. Polk
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Grover Cleveland
Woodrow Wilson
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Harry S Truman
John F. Kennedy
Lyndon B. Johnson
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton


Just curious, Giovanni. Why was Wilson your least favorite Democrat? Most people either choose one of the pre-Civil War do-nothings like Pierce or Buchanan, or some conservatives decrying what they perceive as a socialist welfare state choose FDR or LBJ. Wilson is a rather unique choice and I'm interested to hear your thoughts.

Blundering America's entry into the League of Nations? Heavily segregating the federal government? Something else?

Repressive actions under the sedition act; massive expansion of government meddling in business ; inept foreign policy; incapacity during the end of his term which left the government driftless.  I feel like there is more but that's a starter.  I consider him as one of the worst presidents.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2009, 02:39:30 pm »

My selections:

Federalist -- I can't choose., like them both.

Democratic-Republicans -- Jefferson.  I think the common adoration of him is based on myth rather than reality.  His handling of the government, and especially the enforcement of the embargo policy, was bad.  Though Madison was president during the failures of the war of 1812, I see the situation he inherited from Jefferson as the root cause.

Whig -- Probably Tyler, who was WINO (whig in name only). 

Democrat -- Wilson.

Republican -- Bush Jr.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2009, 07:40:16 am »


I have probably read more books than you and have much more clue than you.

I am familiar with that book.  It doesnt prove your statement.

As for being a moron, look in the mirror. 

What a tool.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2009, 10:10:01 pm »

I am familiar with that book.  It doesnt prove your statement.

Yes, it does. That book was used at West Point which again proves my point that secession was taught at West Point. But we can just keep going around and around because you think you're holier then thou. I'll still be right in the end.

Yes it was used at West Point.  Does that prove that every section of it was taught as being correct?  No.  You really have no grip on how to prove a point.

I was assigned to read the Communist Manifesto in college for a European History class, does that prove for you that it was being taught as correct doctrine?  If  so your a bigger idiot that I even thought.

As for acting holier than thou, that's your specialty not mine. 
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2009, 11:14:56 pm »

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This is completely false.  Bogus.  Bullsh**t. 

You do realize that West Point taught secession as a legal option for states up until the Civil War.

I do not realize it because it is not a true statement. 
 

Yes it was used at West Point.  Does that prove that every section of it was taught as being correct?  No. 

What I said is a true statement. That book taught that secession was a legal option. That book was used at West Point. Your first post claimed my statement was incorrect. Clearly you are wrong.



What you said is not a true statement. 

Rawle's book was a text at West Point for a brief period of time.  In the book Rawle does express an opinion that secession was a right retained by the states.

But prove that this portion of Rawle was taught to cadets at West Point as being correct doctrine. 

You also claimed it was taught 'up until the Civil War'.  Prove that Rawle continued to be used at West Point, when evidnce indicates it was not -- Jefferson Davis himself claiming that when he got to his senior year Rawle had been replaced by Kent's Commentaries for constitutional law class.

Rawle was published in 1825.  Davis claimed Kent's work replaced it by 1828.     

Your clutching at straws to try to prop up your mythology of fictitious states rights and your pathetic adoration of the confederacy. 
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