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« on: July 01, 2009, 12:23:43 pm »

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Hereís a list of which Presidentís were in which Party:

Federalist
George Washington
John Adams

Democratic-Republican
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
James Monroe
John Quincy Adams

Whigs
William Henry Harrison
John Tyler
Zachary Taylor
Milliard Fillmore

Democrat
Andrew Jackson
Martin Van Buren
James K. Polk
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Grover Cleveland
Woodrow Wilson
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Harry S Truman
John F. Kennedy
Lyndon B. Johnson
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton

Republican
 Abraham Lincoln
Andrew Johnson
Ulysses S. Grant
Rutherford B. Hayes
James A. Garfield
Chester A. Arthur
Benjamin Harrison
William McKinley
Theodore Roosevelt
William Howard Taft
William G. Harding
Calvin Coolidge
Herbert Hoover
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Richard Nixon
Gerald R. Ford
Ronald Reagan
George H. W. Bush
George W. Bush

Federalist: Adams

Whigs: All sucked

Democratic: Buchanan followed by Pierce

Republican: Where to begin? Short of my favorites (Lincoln, T. Roosevelt & Eisenhower), there's no one on the list other than Ford (barely) who rises above the range of "sub-mediocre" to "god-awful".
GWB (good job in first Iraq war).
Tie among every useless facial hair sporting plutocratic do-nothing (usually from Ohio) from (especially) A. Johnson through McKinley (who's probably tops among this lot, FWIW).
Hoover
Coolidge
Harding
Reagan
Nixon
W. (narrowly edging out Nixon for worst)
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 08:31:53 pm »

Please, one day someone of the Lincoln dislikers could expalin me how the man who abolished slavery could be the worst president.
Yeah, I don't know how Americans could possibly not worship the man who on behalf of corporate interests started an unnecessary war that killed 500,000 of their countrymen, took upon himself dictatorial powers, oversaw war crimes, put the U.S. Constitution through the shredder, completely destroyed the carefully balanced government system crafted by the Founding Fathers, and was an all-around self-serving two-faced dirtbag. What's not to love about old Dishonest Abe?


I really don't understand why self-proclaimed 'libertarians' perpetuate this ancient canard. One of the central credos of classical liberal theory, first promulgated by John Locke, is that all men are possessed of the innate right of self-ownership. If one man owns another human being, he is contravening that basic right and, therefore, subjecting him to tyranny. Lincoln may have done some morally questionable things in pursuit of winning the war, but was, on the whole, fighting for a righteous cause.

I believe this is simply a side-effect of that decaying fusionist philosophy that will hopefully fall away completely when that particular ideological superstructure totally buckles.
Oh yes,  I forgot all about the fact that Lincoln sent a half-a-million men to their deaths for the "righteous cause" of forcing tariffs upon the South to enable his industrialist corporate clients to monopolize the market under a wall of favoritism and protectionism.

What was it you were rambling on about?
So Lincon was a slave to corporate industrialists, but Harding and Coolidge who you listed as your favorite presidents weren't...

Awesome. I can't understand why libertarians can't win a single state house seat nationwide.
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 12:00:56 pm »

Federalist
John Adams

Democratic-Republican
James Monroe

Whigs
Milliard Fillmore

Democrat
Lyndon B. Johnson

Republican
Benjamin Harrison

Just curious, why Harrison compared to the other largely interchangable Gilded Age presidents (Grant, Arthur, etc)?
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2009, 12:32:29 pm »

Certainly the poor Irish working 14 hours a day had loads of liberty in the great industrial north.

Number of slaves who attempted (successfully or not) to flee north to become factory workers: countless thousands.

Number of factory workers who attempted to flee south to become slaves: 0

No matter how hard it was for northern indentured servants and industrial workers (and I agree it absolutely was---good thing unions were eventually formed to fight the worst abuses, right SR? ;-P ), don't kid yourself into thinking the horrors of slavery were comparable.

Bottom line: The South lost, the Union was saved, the slaves were freed, and the USA is infinitely stronger today for all of it----so get over it.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2009, 01:03:16 pm »


Democrat
Andrew Jackson
Martin Van Buren
James K. Polk
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Grover Cleveland
Woodrow Wilson
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Harry S Truman
John F. Kennedy
Lyndon B. Johnson
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton


Just curious, Giovanni. Why was Wilson your least favorite Democrat? Most people either choose one of the pre-Civil War do-nothings like Pierce or Buchanan, or some conservatives decrying what they perceive as a socialist welfare state choose FDR or LBJ. Wilson is a rather unique choice and I'm interested to hear your thoughts.

Blundering America's entry into the League of Nations? Heavily segregating the federal government? Something else?
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2009, 08:35:25 am »


Democrat
Andrew Jackson
Martin Van Buren
James K. Polk
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Grover Cleveland
Woodrow Wilson
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Harry S Truman
John F. Kennedy
Lyndon B. Johnson
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton


Just curious, Giovanni. Why was Wilson your least favorite Democrat? Most people either choose one of the pre-Civil War do-nothings like Pierce or Buchanan, or some conservatives decrying what they perceive as a socialist welfare state choose FDR or LBJ. Wilson is a rather unique choice and I'm interested to hear your thoughts.

Blundering America's entry into the League of Nations? Heavily segregating the federal government? Something else?

I hated the Wilsonian ideology of intervention, he was a hypocrite, and a Racist. Most Democratic Presidents in the era usually accomplhsihed something good, LBJ (civil Rights), FDR (I support Social Security) but I cannot name one accomplishment of Wilson.
Interesting analysis. I agree with much of your critique. Though personally I liked Wilson's New Freedom plan which implemented some needed progressive reforms like establishing the Federal Reserve. This puts him above some of the lousy pre Civil War Democrats like Buchanan and Pierce in my book, despite the very real problems with Wilson that you cite.
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2009, 08:49:19 pm »

Don't bother, Will. States hates the USA and wishes it had permenantly split in two in the 1860's. Life would be so much better today you see.
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