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« on: June 29, 2017, 11:35:29 PM »

Be honest. Who do you think is worse? Satan or God?

I'm starting to think that Satan is really the lesser of two evils.

Satan doesn't tell people what to do with a long list of rules and he hasn't killed millions of people. He doesn't tell you to not use his name is vain and he doesn't go around putting curses on individuals.

God is basically a police officer in deity form.

The late George Carlin said that in a decently-run universe, God would be out on his all-powerful ass because the world is a mess.
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 11:51:29 PM »

My mom and I have a "multiple antichrists" theory, but I don't think that's what you're going for here.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2017, 01:09:30 AM »

maks u think
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2017, 04:14:22 AM »

Don't cut yourself on that edge.
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2017, 06:51:50 AM »

Do you think these are f#cking comic book characters or something?
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2017, 06:54:57 AM »

Satan is more fiscally conservative whereas God is more socially conservative
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2017, 09:55:05 AM »

Do you think these are f#cking comic book characters or something?

Apparently they read vertigo.
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2017, 11:04:54 AM »

Satan is more fiscally conservative whereas God is more socially conservative

What about the Demiurge?
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2017, 02:16:38 PM »

My mom and I have a "multiple antichrists" theory, but I don't think that's what you're going for here.

I am very curious what this theory is, even though it's a bit off-topic.  Mind elaborating?
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2017, 12:27:18 AM »

Satan doesn't tell people what to do with a long list of rules and he hasn't killed millions of people. He doesn't tell you to not use his name is vain and he doesn't go around putting curses on individuals.

God is basically a police officer in deity form.

Satan means "the accuser". Please flesh out your analogy in light of this fact.
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2017, 06:33:43 PM »

Satan's entire purpose is to destroy the lives of people by making them think that everything is great, or by making them feel unworthy, or by simply distracting people. Anyway to get your soul into hell.

God wants what's best, but never enforced His will on people. Everyone one of His "rules" is completely voluntary and He will never coerce you into following them. Then there is the bit about coming to earth and dying for everyone to have eternal life if they choose to accept it.

Ultimate hate is not better than perfect love.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2017, 02:19:50 AM »

Satan's entire purpose is to destroy the lives of people by making them think that everything is great, or by making them feel unworthy, or by simply distracting people. Anyway to get your soul into hell.

God wants what's best, but never enforced His will on people. Everyone one of His "rules" is completely voluntary and He will never coerce you into following them. Then there is the bit about coming to earth and dying for everyone to have eternal life if they choose to accept it.

Ultimate hate is not better than perfect love.

"Everyone one of His "rules" is completely voluntary and He will never coerce you into following them"

Don't you think that threatening to throw into those who break the totally-voluntary rules isn't really all that voluntary?
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2017, 12:14:36 PM »

Is this a serious question? With God you are rewarded with eternal paradise in heaven. With Satan you are punished with eternal damnation in the depths of hell
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2017, 01:46:03 PM »

Is this a serious question? With God you are rewarded with eternal paradise in heaven. With Satan you are punished with eternal damnation in the depths of hell

Which god determines.
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2017, 02:07:32 PM »

Is this a serious question? With God you are rewarded with eternal paradise in heaven. With Satan you are punished with eternal damnation in the depths of hell

Which god determines.


But if you side with Satan you automatically go there
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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2017, 02:09:40 PM »

Been reading Paradise Lost?
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« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2017, 03:35:41 PM »

Is this a serious question? With God you are rewarded with eternal paradise in heaven. With Satan you are punished with eternal damnation in the depths of hell

Which god determines.


But if you side with Satan you automatically go there

Which god determines.
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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2017, 03:57:02 PM »

Is this a serious question? With God you are rewarded with eternal paradise in heaven. With Satan you are punished with eternal damnation in the depths of hell

Which god determines.


But if you side with Satan you automatically go there

Which god determines.

Think about it this way, God is having a party and it's big enough for him to invite all his friends, it's unlike anything you've ever seen and he wants you to come. Meanwhile, Satan is Gods enemy and he wants to crash the party. God knows who Satan is so he won't get in. But Satan would try to send one of his followers to do his dirty work for him. In Gods situation, would you allow for a soldier of your enemy to enter your house? No. If you are a follower of the Evil One, you would be better off at his house
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2017, 08:49:03 AM »

Is this a serious question? With God you are rewarded with eternal paradise in heaven. With Satan you are punished with eternal damnation in the depths of hell

Which god determines.


But if you side with Satan you automatically go there

Which god determines.

Think about it this way, God is having a party and it's big enough for him to invite all his friends, it's unlike anything you've ever seen and he wants you to come. Meanwhile, Satan is Gods enemy and he wants to crash the party. God knows who Satan is so he won't get in. But Satan would try to send one of his followers to do his dirty work for him. In Gods situation, would you allow for a soldier of your enemy to enter your house? No. If you are a follower of the Evil One, you would be better off at his house

No. Satan is just a ham fisted attempt, alongside 'free will' to address the problem of evil.
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2017, 01:46:40 PM »

Both are huge jerks.
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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2017, 07:30:53 PM »

Satan (normal, sane).  God is good.

That is, unless you're an ultraconservative biblical literalist, in which case it is God.
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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2017, 06:40:17 PM »

Is this a serious question? With God you are rewarded with eternal paradise in heaven. With Satan you are punished with eternal damnation in the depths of hell

Which god determines.


But if you side with Satan you automatically go there

Which god determines.

And god knows which one you would like better, and I know you personally would like Hell more.
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2017, 08:30:16 AM »

Think about it this way, God is having a party and it's big enough for him to invite all his friends, it's unlike anything you've ever seen and he wants you to come. Meanwhile, Satan is Gods enemy and he wants to crash the party. God knows who Satan is so he won't get in. But Satan would try to send one of his followers to do his dirty work for him. In Gods situation, would you allow for a soldier of your enemy to enter your house? No. If you are a follower of the Evil One, you would be better off at his house
and if you don't believe in the party, or just don't feel like going....well screw you, welcome to hell.

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People a lot smarter than me have spent way more time thinking about these things than I have, anything I say is unimportant and probably wrong.  It's for the best that none of us waste our time typing it or reading it.  Good day.
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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2017, 02:44:03 PM »

Be honest. Who do you think is worse? Satan or God?

I'm starting to think that Satan is really the lesser of two evils.

Satan doesn't tell people what to do with a long list of rules and he hasn't killed millions of people. He doesn't tell you to not use his name is vain and he doesn't go around putting curses on individuals.

God is basically a police officer in deity form.

The late George Carlin said that in a decently-run universe, God would be out on his all-powerful ass because the world is a mess.

I like Carling for his political view but he is blaming God for our mess when man is the cause.

As a Gnostic Christian, I see reality a bit differently.

 Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.
If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.
But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

One thing you can count on is that every Gnostic Christian will agree that Yahweh is a genocidal son murderer and that Satan has  a better set of morals than him. We were calling Yahweh a vile demiurge 2,000 years ago.

How time flies. Now we have two arch enemies. Nice that they cannot kill us with impunity thanks to a corrupt government like in our hay day.

Both Christianity and Islam have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

We do not know much of that mythical Satan, but she cannot possibly be more evil than God.

Remember that all the evil that exists emanated from God and if he kept his nature intact and gave Satan a new batch of evil, which he did, mythically speaking, so that would mean that God still has more evil in him than Satan.

That is why that prick seems like such an evil prick. That is what he is and that is why Gnostic Christians say that humans are better in many ways, and particularly morals. That is why secular law is so much better than Yahweh's law.
 
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2017, 02:50:11 PM »

Satan doesn't tell people what to do with a long list of rules and he hasn't killed millions of people. He doesn't tell you to not use his name is vain and he doesn't go around putting curses on individuals.

God is basically a police officer in deity form.

Satan means "the accuser". Please flesh out your analogy in light of this fact.

It makes God look even more like an immoral prick which begs the question below..

Can you tell us why Satan, if just an accuser, would be gifted the power to deceive the whole world, from God's own being?

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