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« Reply #1075 on: August 09, 2018, 05:51:34 PM »

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« Reply #1076 on: August 09, 2018, 06:03:02 PM »

The Republican party by a mile. They still have at least some politicians with a spine, with intelligence and are fairly big-tent. All of this is compared to Likud politicians btw. Additionally, the Republican party is MUCH less controlled by its leader's tyrannous iron hand.

Likud has become, under Netanyahu, a horrid stinking mess that I will never vote for until it's completely purged of all current officeholders. Bibi threw out everyone who he deemed a threat and was left with a bunch of miserable, literally stupid and anti-democratic buffoons. The party's slate in the Knesset now includes someone who worked in a Bulgarian cassino and was involved in selling women's bodies, for example. So many of the party's members in the parliament are utterly dumb and introduced legislation that unabashebly attacks law enforcement to protect the corrupt POS who leads them- which leads me to the last point, the extremely corrupt, inciting lier and wanna-be despot Netanyahu who serves as the cherry on the top and is, I believe, one of the men who hurt the Jewish people the most in the 21st century, by leading to an ideological split and hate between Jews.
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« Reply #1077 on: August 11, 2018, 02:11:19 PM »

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« Reply #1078 on: August 11, 2018, 03:25:28 PM »

You don't have anything to apologize for, The Saint. The Democrats these days (including my buddy IceSpear, who is often not so bad otherwise) remind me of how the religious right used to be back in the Bush years. They are really high strung and convinced that they're right, but at the end of the day they're human, too. They, too, fall prey to the evils of prejudice and bias and inconsistency and bad faith that they accuse the Republicans of doing. Once you realize that, the respect you have for them falls away. You realize that they aren't any better than you are, they only pretend that they are. Some of them hide behind appeals to authority like the New York Times or CNN, and this gives them a false sense of security that they're right. But what they don't realize is that behind these brand names are people too, just like you and me, with all the foibles that people have, as well. So you don't have to justify yourself to anyone.
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« Reply #1079 on: August 11, 2018, 03:48:26 PM »


(Re: Kris Kobach)
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« Reply #1080 on: August 11, 2018, 04:14:49 PM »

I'm not tired of her. I'm tired of the collective reaction to her winning a primary from across the political spectrum that ranges from "she's a Bernie shill!" to "she's a filthy commie pinko!", and I wish people on Atlas and in the media would stop talking about her like her newfound popularity is the scariest thing in American politics right now.

The media hasnt made her the voice of the Ds, they have tried to make her a joke. For gods sake, there was an article about how she didnt say Pelosi is "the head of the Democratic Party", and criticized her for it.

Its infuriating how they treat more moderate or Blue Dog dems like masters of politics, like when they covered Sinema when she said she wouldnt support Chuck, but she blows her nose, and the media freaks out.

Also this.

She's not my favorite Dem candidate, but you'd think that she was our presidential candidate for a presidential election this year given the amount of coverage she's been getting.
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« Reply #1081 on: August 11, 2018, 05:30:13 PM »

FF example of a left-libertarian.
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« Reply #1082 on: August 11, 2018, 05:32:32 PM »

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« Reply #1083 on: August 11, 2018, 08:51:43 PM »

Saturday, July 30th, 2011: Gilmore enters GOP fray.

RICHMOND, VA: Former Governor Jim Gilmore has announced he’ll seek the Republican nomination in 2012, four years after his first ill-fated presidential run. The Governor made the announcement in a video released on his website, in which he lambasted President Obama’s “failed experiment with socialism” and encouraged Republicans to unite “around a problem solver with proven results.” Gilmore ranks at the bottom of the polls due to low fundraising and name recognition.

The Governor, who served from 1997 until 2001, also served as Chairman of the Republican National Committee and was the Republican nominee for Senate in Virginia in 2008, where Mark Warner defeated him in a landslide. Gilmore’s tenure as Governor – which coincided with the 9/11 attacks on the Pentagon – give Gilmore credible experience that could make him stand out in an increasingly crowded field, though most observers view the prospects of Gilmore gaining traction as unlikely.

Monday, August 1st, 2011: Obama: America is heading towards default.

WASHINGTON, DC: With the Senate likely to reject the Boehner compromise, President Obama took to a White House podium to issue a stern warning: America is going to default. The announcement sent stocks tumbling and investors into panic as the deadline for a final debt ceiling agreement looms in less than twelve hours. The increasing concern over a default on America’s debt could launch another recession, according to most analysts.

The President is rumored to be considering taking “extraordinary actions” according to one top White House aide who spoke on the condition of anonymity. Another option for the President is the use of executive action to raise the debt ceiling, which could starve off future financial collapse in the short term but is unlikely to hold water before the Supreme Court. The White House has remained silent on whether or not President Obama will indeed act as rumors continue to circulate around a panicked Washington.

Tuesday, August 2nd, 2011: America defaults; Obama acts.

WASHINGTON, DC: Obama has signed an executive order despite concerns of a Supreme Court injunction that declares the debt ceiling unconstitutional (and thus effectively ignoring it), announcing the decision in a speech from the Oval Office in which he lamented the lack of bipartisan cooperation on Washington and warned of a recession. The President signed another executive order, impounding billions of dollars for a period of 45 days (the maximum under federal law) to fund next month’s social security payment, thus relieving the fears of millions of seniors in the short term. “I’ve got a pen and a phone” declared Obama, “and I’ll use them,” words that have angered Republicans.

The reaction has led to numerous outcries from Republicans; Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) is considering introducing articles of impeachment, claiming President Obama’s actions “disregard the constitution” while Donald Trump simply tweeted “worst President ever.” Mitt Romney also echoed Trump’s sentiments, claiming that President Obama is “the most incompetent President on record,” while Newt Gingrich was more blunt, warning that “America is going to hell” under President Obama’s leadership.

Standards & Poors have confirmed that the United States credit rating has been downgraded from AAA to AA+, citing Congressional gridlock as a threat to America’s economic recovery and ability to meet its obligations. The default is unprecedented in American history, and has many on Wall Street concerned of a potential recession. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has called for calm, stating that “there is still a limited amount of time left” to “stabilize the situation before it’s too late.”

Wednesday, August 3rd, 2011: Eurozone shaken by American downgrade.

BRUSSELS, BELGIUM: The American credit downgrade has sparked fresh concern in Europe that the debt ceiling may have a contagious effect on Europe. According to a Reuters report, France and Britain stand the most risk of facing a credit review, which could have wide-ranging effects on the economic stability of the Eurozone as a whole. The French government in particular faces a debt crisis of it’s own as the government has been locked in a parliamentary fight to restrict future deficits.

The rising cost of preventing France from defaulting on its debt highlights the spreading may result in a credit downgrade at a time when many American investors are jumping ship and purchasing European bonds. “The situation is very fragile” warned one economist, while Paul Krugman prophesized that “the rise of the radical right in Europe” could result in “austerity agendas” that he predicts will “evaporate the lubricants keeping the whole machine going.” Krugman went on to call the growing crisis “the Republican recession.”

EU leaders are working overtime tonight to plan a possible multinational summit later this month (likely to be held in Germany) to discuss further cooperation as the recession threatens to fracture the fragile European Union. Meanwhile on Wall Street, stocks continued to slide for the second day in a row following the American credit downgrade and President Obama’s use of executive action to stop the debt ceiling crisis at the last minute.

Friday, August 5th, 2011: According to a senior staffer who spoke to the press on the grounds of anonymity, Michelle Bachmann has been suffering from debilitating migraines that have resulted in the cancelation of several campaign events. Bachmann counters the report, claiming that the migraines haven’t affected her ability to serve in Congress and are controlled by prescription medication.

Saturday, August 6th, 2011: The Taliban claims credit for the shoot down of a military helicopter just west of Kabul, which resulted in the deaths of several Navy SEALS associated with Seal Team Six. At least three of those killed had been part of the failed Abbottabad raid, according to one Pentagon source. The SEALs were en-route towards the believed location of a well-known local Taliban warlord wanted by the Afghan government. Controversy is begins to swirl around the mysterious circumstances that surround the incident.

Monday, August 8th, 2011: The Senate confirms Tom Donnilon as Secretary of Defense by a vote of 93-7; among the notable dissenters are Senators Ron Wyden (D-OR), Jeff Merkely (D-OR), Rand Paul (R-KY), and Bernie Sanders (I-VT).

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Waterloo, IA.


When Sarah Palin stepped on stage to join Trump as the “mystery guest,” the crowd roared louder than ever before – it even sent a chill of excitement down Donald Trump’s spine – in delight. Sarah Palin, who has long been floated as a potential presidential contender, was here to endorse Mr. Trump. It was the confluence of two of American conservatism’s greatest rock stars. “Sarah! Sarah! Sarah!” the crowd chanted, the applause not close to dying down. Palin remembered how utterly nerve-racking such events could be from her 2008 campaign for the Vice Presidency. So, to settle her nerves, she drank a beer…then another…and then another, before boarding the motorcade that took her to the civic center. Palin was no alcoholic, but in situations like this, she just couldn’t help herself. The fact that she was borderline drunk upon arriving at the rally made several Trump aides panic, but the Big Man himself didn’t care, and insisted that Sarah go onstage. “She’s fun” he assured campaign manager David Bossie, “she’ll have a good time, she loves people.”

“Thank you so much, we love Iowa!” declared Palin, “we’ve just been here to thaw out!” “It’s great to be here” she continued, “with all you farmers and linemen and small business owners and rock ‘n rollers and holly rollers, I have a question! – are you ready to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” The crowd cheered loudly. “Are you ready for a President who will fight for you? Are you ready for a President who will go out there AND KICK OBAMA’S ASS?”

The crowd leaped to their feet. Old men stomped the floor. The Proud Boys present, as these rabidly pro-Trump fraternity brothers became known, hooped and hollered. Women and children alike cheered. Trump promised a surprise, and he sure delivered on it. Palin continued her speech, repeatedly energizing the crowd with old Tea Party maxims (“we the people,” “taxed enough already!, “Drain the Swamp” among others) in a speech that was carried by all of the major networks. Palin’s use of profanity was dwarfed by Trump’s use of the F-bomb recently, but still turned heads. For the first time, many of Trump’s opponents in the GOP race realized that something serious was happening. Trump was more than just the latest “flavor of the month.” No, Trump was here to stay.
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« Reply #1084 on: August 12, 2018, 07:06:44 PM »

He might never prove that god exists, but he did prove that geniuses don't have to be very wise.

Mmmmk.

Is "I want to be an astrophysicist to prove God is real using science" wise? I mean, I don't really blame him- he might be a genius but he's still just a child who was indoctorinated into a religion by his parents.

(just realized days later that my previous comment was incomplete Tongue)

Fair enough, but while I agree that 'proof' really isn't the right term for what we're working with here, it is true that various theistic arguments are based on research into cosmology and quantum mechanics (regarding origin of universe and free will/determinism), so it doesn't seem that far-fetched for someone to go into physics in part to look for evidence for their faith.
Going into a scientific investigation with the intent of proving something you already believe, rather than finding the truth, is how you get terrible science.

That's what the scientific method is for. Tongue

But as long as someone is doing their work honestly, what is wrong with hoping that their results turn out a certain way?  Scientists of all persuasions have wanted certain results to be true (whether they like the mathematical elegance of their hypothesis, or for some other reason).  While not perfect, the forces of peer review should act as a counterbalance to this. 
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« Reply #1085 on: August 12, 2018, 09:44:56 PM »

He enables war criminals and is complicit in the erosion of our fundamental civil liberties. I would rather have Rand Paul representing me than authoritarian, war mongering trash like Donnelly.

Are people here still pretending Rand Paul is some kind of maverick? I must have teleported 4 years back in time.
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« Reply #1086 on: August 12, 2018, 09:59:44 PM »

Whether or not provisionals decide the winner, one thing is certain: it shouldn’t be this close.

From the OH CD-12 SE Thread:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=275225.msg6343855#msg6343855
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« Reply #1087 on: August 13, 2018, 01:57:25 AM »

Clearly the Smiley Nice Gal FF Anti-Zionist Smiley isn’t antisemitic because she’s totally not using variations of rhetoric from Protocols, nope, no sir-ee, not at all.


Pretty interesting how all these “anti-Zionists” use antisemitic language when speaking about Israel rather than actually criticising any specific policy, but, hey, if that’s the hill you want to die on, be my guest.
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« Reply #1088 on: August 13, 2018, 02:46:08 AM »

I've never been a fan of Chad/Virgin memes.
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« Reply #1089 on: August 13, 2018, 07:33:07 AM »


Do you think if schuylkill scott wins be a one termer or will he run for reelection in 2024?
Honestly I'd rather have Scott retire, have DeSantis take on Nelson, and have Bondi as Governor. But things didn't work out that way. But to answer your question, Scott's going to be DOA in 2024, especially if Trump is still President. He doesn't strike me as a natural legislator. He's a much stronger administratively in an executive position.

A. lmao if you would rather have DeSantis than Scott as your nominee

B. Regardless of what you think Scott's fate would be in 2024 if he wins in 2018, do you think he will run again in 2024 or retire?
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« Reply #1090 on: August 13, 2018, 07:54:47 AM »

He might never prove that god exists, but he did prove that geniuses don't have to be very wise.

Mmmmk.

Is "I want to be an astrophysicist to prove God is real using science" wise? I mean, I don't really blame him- he might be a genius but he's still just a child who was indoctorinated into a religion by his parents.

(just realized days later that my previous comment was incomplete Tongue)

Fair enough, but while I agree that 'proof' really isn't the right term for what we're working with here, it is true that various theistic arguments are based on research into cosmology and quantum mechanics (regarding origin of universe and free will/determinism), so it doesn't seem that far-fetched for someone to go into physics in part to look for evidence for their faith.
Going into a scientific investigation with the intent of proving something you already believe, rather than finding the truth, is how you get terrible science.

That's what the scientific method is for. Tongue

But as long as someone is doing their work honestly, what is wrong with hoping that their results turn out a certain way?  Scientists of all persuasions have wanted certain results to be true (whether they like the mathematical elegance of their hypothesis, or for some other reason).  While not perfect, the forces of peer review should act as a counterbalance to this. 
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« Reply #1091 on: August 13, 2018, 10:37:24 AM »

CA-48 where I used to live in Laguna Niguel. It is an area packed with Clinton Republicans, and ex Republicans, and Dana is kind of a kook and not particularly personally pleasant, who has a weird love or something like that for Putin's Russia. And even though he was a rock and roll stone head as a young man, whom I knew personally, he morphed into waging a war on porn, before discovering his love for the new Russia (he does speak fluent Russian). And now he is fighting for his political life, and may well go down. I hope he does. When I first moved to Laguna Niguel in 1984, it was close to 2 to 1 Pub. It would still be 3-2 Pub if the Pub Party had not gone down the road it has gone down.
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« Reply #1092 on: August 13, 2018, 10:47:11 AM »

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« Reply #1093 on: August 14, 2018, 07:29:26 PM »

Tossup. Of the three states that decided 2016, Michigan is the only one I'd consider Lean or likely D. Wisconsin is also a toss up.
Michigan is still a tossup for 2020. Democrats keep thinking Michigan isn't trending R when it is. Snyder won twice in a row there by healthy margins.

Rick Synder did much worse in 2014 compared to 2010 and he only won by a 4.1% margin. Still kind  of close.






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« Reply #1094 on: August 15, 2018, 06:29:24 PM »

Alabama - Likely R
Alaska - Tossup
Arizona - Lean R
Arkansas - Safe R
California - Safe D
Colorado - Likely D
Connecticut - Likely D
Florida - Tossup
Georgia - Tossup
Hawaii - Safe D
Idaho - Safe R
Illinois - Likely D
Iowa - Tossup
Kansas - Tossup
Maine - Lean D
Maryland - Lean R
Massachusetts - Safe R
Michigan - Lean D
Minnesota - Safe D
Nebraska - Safe R
Nevada - Lean D
New Hampshire - Tossup
New Mexico - Safe D
New York - Safe D
Ohio - Tossup
Oklahoma - Lean R
Oregon - Safe D
Pennsylvania - Safe D
Rhode Island - Lean D
South Carolina - Likely R
South Dakota - Likely R
Tennessee - Lean R
Texas - Safe R
Vermont - Likely R
Wisconsin - Lean D
Wyoming - Likely R
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« Reply #1095 on: August 15, 2018, 06:52:51 PM »

Who?

J/K, but he does seem like the most obscure major party nominee since Democrats and Republicans have been the main parties.  Maybe Winfield Scott Hancock comes close?
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« Reply #1096 on: August 15, 2018, 07:11:33 PM »

Hope it's a good one - happy birthday man!
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« Reply #1097 on: August 15, 2018, 07:23:47 PM »

Very interesting point, about the age gradient being stronger in states that trended D.

I can see how, for example, WV in 2016, would have little or no difference in age groups-- and other states, like AZ, CA, and FL, would have a huge difference.

I am willing to bet that was not always the case. Georgia, for example, went from being Kennedy's 2nd best state in 1960 to Nixon's 2nd best state in 1972. Clearly, it trended R. But I have a hard time believing that Georgians under 30 were less likely to vote for the candidate of "acid, amnesty, and abortion" than older Georgians in 1972 (a year in which voters under 30 nationwide were far more likely to vote Dem than those 30 or older). Thus, then R trend in Georgia between those two years, if one only includes those of voting age in 1960, was probably even stronger than the raw numbers indicate.
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« Reply #1098 on: August 15, 2018, 09:27:54 PM »

December 4th, 2018

With the Economy continuing to crumble, the unemployment rate spiked up to 13% with many companies laying off people or closing down. Farmers in the plain states plan shut down their business in 2019 due to the 80% tariffs on soybeans and corn on top of the horrible economy.

December 8th, 2018

Jeb Bush has officially announced he is running for President to challenge Trump. But he is not alone...





January 20th, 2019:

Two full years of Donald Trump being President. Mike Pence decides to also challenge Trump in 2020 and instantly announces he will join the 2020 race!

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« Reply #1099 on: August 16, 2018, 05:40:05 AM »

He might never prove that god exists, but he did prove that geniuses don't have to be very wise.

Mmmmk.

Is "I want to be an astrophysicist to prove God is real using science" wise? I mean, I don't really blame him- he might be a genius but he's still just a child who was indoctorinated into a religion by his parents.

(just realized days later that my previous comment was incomplete Tongue)

Fair enough, but while I agree that 'proof' really isn't the right term for what we're working with here, it is true that various theistic arguments are based on research into cosmology and quantum mechanics (regarding origin of universe and free will/determinism), so it doesn't seem that far-fetched for someone to go into physics in part to look for evidence for their faith.
Going into a scientific investigation with the intent of proving something you already believe, rather than finding the truth, is how you get terrible science.

That's what the scientific method is for. Tongue

But as long as someone is doing their work honestly, what is wrong with hoping that their results turn out a certain way?  Scientists of all persuasions have wanted certain results to be true (whether they like the mathematical elegance of their hypothesis, or for some other reason).  While not perfect, the forces of peer review should act as a counterbalance to this. 
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