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Gabu
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« on: August 16, 2005, 06:31:22 AM »

I see absolutely no reason to do this other than for self-serving Libertarian purposes due to their being mad at the fact that they have to work to get on the ballot.  No, I think that this would hurt a heck of a lot more than it would help.  If you think we have troubles now with everyone claiming that this vote should be counted, no it shouldn't, yes it should, blah blah blah, consider the fact that an "X" in a circle or whatever is a nevertheless whole lot easier to decipher than someone's handwriting.
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Gabu
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2005, 07:01:04 AM »

this is an interesting double-edged sword issue for libertarians trying to get elected.  On one hand there are times when money from the government is offered to us to run elections (although a lot smaller amount than the major party candidates).  Nethertheless, if we take the money we can do a lot to campaign and can stand some ground on a three way race, however we are 'the party of principle' and we refuse recieving government handouts or welfare, so we'd be violating our principles.

Principles?  Sheesh, and you wonder why you guys never get elected. Tongue
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Gabu
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2005, 01:23:25 AM »

I can see what you mean.  We could pour lots of money into a libertarian leaning state to get a notice in % voted for, or we could pour lots of money into Ohio-meaning tilting the election.  The problem with that is we would alienate other states that might have a high turnout.  I think it's essential to get on the ballot in 50 states only because people won't take us seriously unless we are.

Instead of running presidential candidates over and over, why don't you do something else that's a little smaller?  You already have run presidential candidates in pretty well all 50 states, and it has not exactly done a whole lot towards having people take you seriously.  You haven't even gotten a single person elected to the House of Representatives, and yet you keep running Presidential candidates.
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52

« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2005, 12:29:04 AM »

2.hackers can always dig into data bases and change votes
      Prove it

If something on a computer is placed onto the internet, then any computer with access to the internet can connect to it.  You can make it harder for an outsider to be able to change anything on the computer, of course, but currently, there are only two ways to make it impossible:

1. Disconnect the computer from the internet.
2. Disallow anybody from accessing the computer.

Obviously, neither is a good idea.

   With everyvote counted instantly, there would never be a need for a recount

What would we do if someone alleged foul play and demanded proof that all people's votes were counted correctly?  What if the software running the election had something like this in it:

if ($VOTE == "George W. Bush")
{
  $VOTE = "John Kerry";
}
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