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« on: July 03, 2017, 04:54:46 AM »

If this were the map of the latest presidential election, who do you think would win?
Would the winner be elected by the Electoral College or by Congress?
Would there still be as many faithless electors as in the last election?
Would the president and his deputy be members of different parties?
And would the outcome influence Evan McMullin's political future?



Clinton:
Trump:
McMullin:
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2017, 08:23:52 AM »

The House elects Trump, the senate Pence.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2017, 10:09:32 AM »

The House elects Trump, the senate Pence.

Don't you think there hadn't been 24 Republicans who would vote against Trump?
It's a pity that McCain, Cruz and S. Martinez aren't Representatives. It would have been to see whom they'd have cast their ballot for...
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2017, 04:35:09 PM »

The House elects Trump, the senate Pence.

Don't you think there hadn't been 24 Republicans who would vote against Trump?
It's a pity that McCain, Cruz and S. Martinez aren't Representatives. It would have been to see whom they'd have cast their ballot for...


Cruz endorsed Trump
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2017, 06:01:20 PM »

By my count, there are over thirty (at the time sitting) Republican Representatives who didn't endorse Trump. Taking away the amount who retired or were defeated for re-election, there were 23 or 24. Assuming one more Trump-supporting Republican was defeated, or a higher amount, then it's presumably a deadlock. After the first ballot, in theory, a new candidate could be proposed.
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2017, 06:13:11 PM »

By my count, there are over thirty (at the time sitting) Republican Representatives who didn't endorse Trump. Taking away the amount who retired or were defeated for re-election, there were 23 or 24. Assuming one more Trump-supporting Republican was defeated, or a higher amount, then it's presumably a deadlock. After the first ballot, in theory, a new candidate could be proposed.

Thanks for your clarification.
In the meantime, I have concluded that Hillary winning a plurality of electoral votes would be even more interesting as that would have been the first time (under the current system) that candidate wins both the PV and the EV and still loses.
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2017, 03:31:41 PM »

By my count, there are over thirty (at the time sitting) Republican Representatives who didn't endorse Trump. Taking away the amount who retired or were defeated for re-election, there were 23 or 24. Assuming one more Trump-supporting Republican was defeated, or a higher amount, then it's presumably a deadlock. After the first ballot, in theory, a new candidate could be proposed.

No because in the House the election would be decided by the votes of state delegations, not individual members.

Depending on what happens in the popular vote (I'm assuming HRC still wins it with IRL levels of support), then the pressure would be on NC, GA, AZ and VA Republicans to vote with their state's populace and deliver those states for Hillary in the House.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2017, 04:38:43 PM »

By my count, there are over thirty (at the time sitting) Republican Representatives who didn't endorse Trump. Taking away the amount who retired or were defeated for re-election, there were 23 or 24. Assuming one more Trump-supporting Republican was defeated, or a higher amount, then it's presumably a deadlock. After the first ballot, in theory, a new candidate could be proposed.

No because in the House the election would be decided by the votes of state delegations, not individual members.

Depending on what happens in the popular vote (I'm assuming HRC still wins it with IRL levels of support), then the pressure would be on NC, GA, AZ and VA Republicans to vote with their state's populace and deliver those states for Hillary in the House.

Michigan would tie, as would Virginia if Rigell could vote. Florida would vote against Trump. Pennsylvania would tie against Trump. Idaho would tie. As for Utah, that's an interesting situation. I imagine Love could convince one other Representative to vote against Trump.
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2017, 04:44:12 PM »

By my count, there are over thirty (at the time sitting) Republican Representatives who didn't endorse Trump. Taking away the amount who retired or were defeated for re-election, there were 23 or 24. Assuming one more Trump-supporting Republican was defeated, or a higher amount, then it's presumably a deadlock. After the first ballot, in theory, a new candidate could be proposed.

No because in the House the election would be decided by the votes of state delegations, not individual members.

Depending on what happens in the popular vote (I'm assuming HRC still wins it with IRL levels of support), then the pressure would be on NC, GA, AZ and VA Republicans to vote with their state's populace and deliver those states for Hillary in the House.

The key question is: Would the House Republicans vote like their state's populace or like their district's populace?
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