Best Chief of Staff?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 03, 2024, 05:41:25 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  Individual Politics (Moderator: The Dowager Mod)
  Best Chief of Staff?
« previous next »
Pages: [1]
Poll
Question: Best Chief of Staff?
#1
John Steelman (1946-1953)
 
#2
Sherman Adams (1953-1958)
 
#3
Wilton Persons (1958-1961)
 
#4
Kenneth O'Donnell (1961-1963)
 
#5
Marvin Watson (1963-1968)
 
#6
James R. Jones (1968-1969)
 
#7
H.R. Haldeman (1969-1973)
 
#8
Al Haig (1973-1974)
 
#9
Donald Rumsfield (1974-1975)
 
#10
Dick Cheney (1975-1977)
 
#11
Hamilton Jordan (1979-1980)
 
#12
Jack Watson (1980-1981)
 
#13
James Baker (1981-1985)
 
#14
Don Regan (1985-1987)
 
#15
Howard Baker (1987-1988)
 
#16
Kenneth Duberstein (1988-1989)
 
#17
John Sununu (1989-1991)
 
#18
Samuel Skinner (1991-1992)
 
#19
James Baker (1992-1993)
 
#20
Mark McLarty (1993-1994)
 
#21
Leon Panetta (1994-1997)
 
#22
Erskine Bowles (1997-1998)
 
#23
John Podesta (1998-2001)
 
#24
Andrew Card (2001-2006)
 
#25
Joshua Bolton (2006-2009)
 
#26
Rahm Emmanuel (2009-2010)
 
#27
Pete Rouse (2010-2011)
 
#28
Bill Daley (2011-2012)
 
#29
Jack Lew (2012-2013)
 
#30
Denis McDonough (2013-2017)
 
#31
Reince Priebus (2017-2017)
 
#32
John Kelly (2017-?)
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 28

Author Topic: Best Chief of Staff?  (Read 750 times)
Higgins
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,161
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: July 31, 2017, 07:00:39 PM »

Who has been the best?
Logged
SATW
SunriseAroundTheWorld
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,463
United States
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2017, 07:07:06 PM »

I voted Howard Baker, but I also like Andy Card, Josh Bolten, Erskine Bowles, Dick Cheney and Al Haig
Logged
Illiniwek
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,925
Vatican City State



Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2017, 07:29:32 PM »

Yikes there are a lot of HPs on this list.
Logged
Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
htmldon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,983
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2017, 08:55:04 PM »

Baker
Logged
Mr. Reactionary
blackraisin
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,806
United States


Political Matrix
E: 5.45, S: -3.35

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2017, 08:57:47 PM »

I voted Haldeman for his great help in bringing Nixon down.
Logged
This is Eharding, guys
ossoff2028
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 292


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2017, 09:06:42 PM »

Panetta, followed by McDonough. Possibly the reverse.
Logged
Lechasseur
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 10,772


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.13

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2017, 09:30:26 PM »

Howard Baker
Logged
Kingpoleon
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,144
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2017, 09:45:13 PM »

Baker, Cheney, and Emmanuel were all extremely effective. I voted Baker.

Rumsfeld and Cheney at some point switched from being foreign policy realists like Ford, Kissinger, Powell, and Rice, to being neoconservatives. In the 1970s, though, they were pretty great.
Logged
FEMA Camp Administrator
Cathcon
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 27,312
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2017, 09:54:38 PM »

Rumsfeld and Cheney at some point switched from being foreign policy realists like Ford, Kissinger, Powell, and Rice, to being neoconservatives. In the 1970s, though, they were pretty great.

As early as their first period in power--that is, the mid 1970's, and the first time that is relevant here--they stood notably to Kissinger's "right".
Logged
Lumine
LumineVonReuental
Moderators
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,679
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2017, 09:58:04 PM »


Haig did keep the White House running through a period of chaos and managed to navigate through Nixon's paranoia, so...
Logged
Kingpoleon
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,144
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2017, 10:02:37 PM »

Rumsfeld and Cheney at some point switched from being foreign policy realists like Ford, Kissinger, Powell, and Rice, to being neoconservatives. In the 1970s, though, they were pretty great.

As early as their first period in power--that is, the mid 1970's, and the first time that is relevant here--they stood notably to Kissinger's "right".
Not really. Phil Crane and Alexander Haig were the main two hawks at the time.
Logged
FEMA Camp Administrator
Cathcon
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 27,312
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2017, 10:04:31 PM »

Rumsfeld and Cheney at some point switched from being foreign policy realists like Ford, Kissinger, Powell, and Rice, to being neoconservatives. In the 1970s, though, they were pretty great.

As early as their first period in power--that is, the mid 1970's, and the first time that is relevant here--they stood notably to Kissinger's "right".
Not really. Phil Crane and Alexander Haig were the main two hawks at the time.

Fascinating.
Logged
Blue3
Starwatcher
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,063
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2017, 10:30:18 PM »

Best Hand of the King... Tyrion Lannister.
Logged
Kingpoleon
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,144
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2017, 10:53:36 PM »

Rumsfeld and Cheney at some point switched from being foreign policy realists like Ford, Kissinger, Powell, and Rice, to being neoconservatives. In the 1970s, though, they were pretty great.

As early as their first period in power--that is, the mid 1970's, and the first time that is relevant here--they stood notably to Kissinger's "right".
Not really. Phil Crane and Alexander Haig were the main two hawks at the time.

Fascinating.

I apologize if there's a misunderstanding - Cheney and Rumsfeld, at the time, pretended to be moderates/business conservatives and were hardly critics of Kissinger.
Logged
dw93
DWL
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,881
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2017, 11:08:58 PM »

I would say Leon Panneta. 1994 and 1995 were, in my view, the make or break for the Clinton Presidency (more so than 1998, which was when the Lewinsky scandal and impeachment were going on), and Panneta probably at least had a small part in Clinton's comeback.

Howard Baker would come in second for me, as he came in after the disaster that was Don Regan (who in my view was the worst, at least the worst Chief of Staff post Halderman) and Howard Baker also came in after Reagan came clean about Iran Contra, so he like Panneta also came in at a "make or break" point for the Reagan Presidency, even though Reagan was term limited at that point.

James Baker did a respectable job in Reagan's first term as well, and Haig also did a respectable job considering all that he had to deal with. McDonough did a decent job to, as it seems like the Obama White House was better managed in the second term than it was in the first with Rahm (who I've always loathed politically) and Daley.
Logged
Grumpier Than Uncle Joe
GM3PRP
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 45,065
Greece
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2017, 09:44:06 AM »

Andy Card
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.051 seconds with 14 queries.