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« on: July 31, 2017, 09:24:51 PM »

Sherrod Brown - 53%

Josh Mandel - 34%

TRUMP - 45/47

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BygPDvU_T-LiY3JTN1g1YlJVRGpYQjM2NHJ3V0NVTVFlaWtn/view
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2017, 09:27:55 PM »

This is Frank Luntz's company.

Great news!
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2017, 09:28:17 PM »

LOL, Junk Poll
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2017, 09:33:00 PM »

Great poll!
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2017, 09:34:36 PM »

Mathew, Mark, Luke, John, and Luntz
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2017, 09:41:25 PM »

Wow, from an 8 point lead to a 19 point deficit. Mandel choked harder than Strickland!
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2017, 09:57:16 PM »

I wish, but its probably a failed anti-Cordray hitjob trying to say "its not the ohio dems being unelectable, it's you personally, Cordray"
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2017, 10:04:57 PM »

Ha no.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2017, 10:11:32 PM »

Obviously junk, but people shouldn't be reading too much into any polls right now.
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2017, 11:33:17 PM »

Polls are wrong unless they support my candidate!
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2017, 11:42:49 PM »

Every poll of a Brown-Mandel rematch has been junk.
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2017, 12:47:40 AM »

wot
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2017, 02:12:42 AM »

Just as junk as the polls showing Brown behind by 8
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2017, 06:14:57 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2017, 06:48:16 AM »

Wow and this is from a Republican pollster! Brown is probably up closer to 25 points! /s
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2017, 07:06:47 AM »

If you actually dig into the numbers, this poll makes some sense, not as a prediction of results but as an expression of the current state of the race.

31% definitely Sherrod Brown
14% probably Sherrod Brown
8% undecided but leaning Brown
13% truly and totally undecided

Brown is a two term Senator who's been around Ohio politics for four decade, he has a pretty big national profile for a Senator, and the current political environment for congressional Republicans is terrible. It's not really surprising that Brown would have stickier support than Mandel 15 months before the election, but even with that sticky support, only 45% are likely Brown voters, with the rest being undecideds and leaners. That doesn't mean Mandel is going to lose by 19 points. He's likely to pick up a good portion of the "truly undecided" voters as people eventually coalesce around the parties in the campaign, but he will need the national environment to improve and he'll have his work cut out for him in the campaign, especially since he needs to convince people why they should vote for him in 2018 when they already voted against him in 2012. So I think for a poll 15 months out, it at least says a few things about how things are going right now.
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2017, 07:39:48 AM »

The fact that people on here are now believing a junk poll is quite sad. I can't remember the last time Luntz was cited anywhere. Just like the others, dismiss it.
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2017, 08:27:53 AM »
« Edited: August 01, 2017, 09:28:05 AM by Not_Madigan »

Ok +19 Brown is a bit nuts, but +8 Mandel is not exactly correct either.
I'm keeping this race at tossup.

Edit:  Brain is fried, apologies.
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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2017, 09:06:47 AM »

Ok +19 Mandel is a bit nuts, but +8 is not exactly correct either.
I'm keeping this race at tossup.
This is brown +19
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2017, 10:03:35 AM »

This is the worst board on the site
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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2017, 11:10:17 AM »

Wish this was true but obviously junk. I have Brown winning in the end by 2-4 points.
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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2017, 11:18:19 AM »

Wish this was true but obviously junk. I have Brown winning in the end by 2-4 points.

I say 7-9%, but yes, this is obviously junk just like every other poll of this race so far.
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« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2017, 11:50:02 AM »

Obvious junk, but rematches almost never work out, and it's hard to defeat an incumbent senator in a midterm with an unpopular opposite-party president.
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« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2017, 01:31:46 PM »

Probably junk, but it's gonna be so fun to watch that nerd Mandel get clobbered a SECOND time.
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« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2017, 01:36:01 PM »

Obvious junk, but rematches almost never work out, and it's hard to defeat an incumbent senator in a midterm with an unpopular opposite-party president.
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