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« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2017, 02:43:38 PM »

Jim Acosta got killed at the briefing. Has he never met a Ugandan, Indian, Guyanese, or Zimbabwean immigrant?
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« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2017, 02:46:11 PM »

Luckily this bill is DOA in the Senate and probably the House too.

Is it really, though? I mean I think it could only pass both houses with bare margins, but given how anti-immigrant the GOP base is and how much they care, this bill is definitely not DOA.



Finding 40 votes to filibuster it won't be hard, it can't be passed under reconciliation, and Mitch won't nuke the legislative filibuster over this.
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« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2017, 02:47:42 PM »

Jim Acosta got killed at the briefing. Has he never met a Ugandan, Indian, Guyanese, or Zimbabwean immigrant?

Lol. Really? Stephen Miller looked pathetic and unhinged.
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« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2017, 02:48:45 PM »

Jim Acosta got killed at the briefing. Has he never met a Ugandan, Indian, Guyanese, or Zimbabwean immigrant?

Lol. Really? Stephen Miller looked pathetic and unhinged.

When doesn't the Santa Monica Nazi look pathetic and unhinged?
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« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2017, 02:50:10 PM »

Luckily this bill is DOA in the Senate and probably the House too.

Is it really, though? I mean I think it could only pass both houses with bare margins, but given how anti-immigrant the GOP base is and how much they care, this bill is definitely not DOA.



Finding 40 votes to filibuster it won't be hard, it can't be passed under reconciliation, and Mitch won't nuke the legislative filibuster over this.

Also 14 Republicans in 2013 voted for a pathway to citizen ships for undocumented immigrants. Even if a few jump on the Trump Train, there are probably at least 5-7 that will want no part in this.
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« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2017, 02:52:49 PM »

The US has the right to set an immigration policy to take in only highly skilled immigrants to fill a skills shortage if it chooses. Democrats who are complaining about this show their true colors. They don't care about working class Americans that would have to compete for jobs and see stagnating wages due to a an increase in the supply of labor by allowing in massive waves of unskilled immigrants. For Democrats it seems to only be about increasing the size of their favorite demographic groups so they can win future elections.

Oh, and for the useful idiots who talk out of one side of their mouths about how we need to reduce the number of children we have to help the environment, and then out of the other side of their mouth say we need to take in immigrants forever in order to make up for our low birthrates, you're not fooling anyone, we can see your true motive is demographic replacement.
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« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2017, 02:54:43 PM »

The US has the right to set an immigration policy to take in only highly skilled immigrants to fill a skills shortage if it chooses. Democrats who are complaining about this show their true colors. They don't care about working class Americans that would have to compete for jobs and see stagnating wages due to a an increase in the supply of labor by allowing in massive waves of unskilled immigrants. For Democrats it seems to only be about increasing the size of their favorite demographic groups so they can win future elections.

Oh, and for the useful idiots who talk out of one side of their mouths about how we need to reduce the number of children we have to help the environment, and then out of the other side of their mouth say we need to take in immigrants forever in order to make up for our low birthrates, you're not fooling anyone, we can see your true motive is demographic replacement.

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« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2017, 02:55:23 PM »

Oh, and for the useful idiots who talk out of one side of their mouths about how we need to reduce the number of children we have to help the environment, and then out of the other side of their mouth say we need to take in immigrants forever in order to make up for our low birthrates, you're not fooling anyone, we can see your true motive is demographic replacement.

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« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2017, 02:55:33 PM »

The US has the right to set an immigration policy to take in only highly skilled immigrants to fill a skills shortage if it chooses. Democrats who are complaining about this show their true colors. They don't care about working class Americans that would have to compete for jobs and see stagnating wages due to a an increase in the supply of labor by allowing in massive waves of unskilled immigrants. For Democrats it seems to only be about increasing the size of their favorite demographic groups so they can win future elections.

Oh, and for the useful idiots who talk out of one side of their mouths about how we need to reduce the number of children we have to help the environment, and then out of the other side of their mouth say we need to take in immigrants forever in order to make up for our low birthrates, you're not fooling anyone, we can see your true motive is demographic replacement.

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There are so many good lolz in there.
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« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2017, 02:56:46 PM »

The US has the right to set an immigration policy to take in only highly skilled immigrants to fill a skills shortage if it chooses. Democrats who are complaining about this show their true colors. They don't care about working class Americans that would have to compete for jobs and see stagnating wages due to a an increase in the supply of labor by allowing in massive waves of unskilled immigrants. For Democrats it seems to only be about increasing the size of their favorite demographic groups so they can win future elections.

Oh, and for the useful idiots who talk out of one side of their mouths about how we need to reduce the number of children we have to help the environment, and then out of the other side of their mouth say we need to take in immigrants forever in order to make up for our low birthrates, you're not fooling anyone, we can see your true motive is demographic replacement.

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There are so many good lolz in there.

Do explain.
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« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2017, 02:56:51 PM »

Jim Acosta got killed at the briefing. Has he never met a Ugandan, Indian, Guyanese, or Zimbabwean immigrant?

Lol. Really? Stephen Miller looked pathetic and unhinged.
What a well thought out rebuttle.
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« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2017, 02:59:14 PM »

Oh, and for the useful idiots who talk out of one side of their mouths about how we need to reduce the number of children we have to help the environment, and then out of the other side of their mouth say we need to take in immigrants forever in order to make up for our low birthrates, you're not fooling anyone, we can see your true motive is demographic replacement.



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« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2017, 03:03:34 PM »

I highly HIGHLY doubt this is race based.

I don't know how anyone can make a statement like that with a straight face after Trump's campaign and its reception.
Because I don't believe "low-skilled" = minorities.
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« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2017, 03:05:00 PM »

Oh, and for the useful idiots who talk out of one side of their mouths about how we need to reduce the number of children we have to help the environment, and then out of the other side of their mouth say we need to take in immigrants forever in order to make up for our low birthrates, you're not fooling anyone, we can see your true motive is demographic replacement.





Are Asians and Africans really going to have more children because a few million immigrate?
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« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2017, 03:06:07 PM »

It's true. We are trying to replace whites with minorities -- it's good politics for Democrats and it's a boon to the economy. But the idea that there are a significant number of people who think having less children is good for the environment and want more immigration is too ridiculous to believe.
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« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2017, 03:08:48 PM »

Immigrants are working class Americans.
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« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2017, 03:11:09 PM »

Oh, and for the useful idiots who talk out of one side of their mouths about how we need to reduce the number of children we have to help the environment, and then out of the other side of their mouth say we need to take in immigrants forever in order to make up for our low birthrates, you're not fooling anyone, we can see your true motive is demographic replacement.





Are Asians and Africans really going to have more children because a few million immigrate?

What are you talking about? The point, that obviously went over your head, was that the first world is being told to have fewer children to help the environment, but then told we need unlimited immigration to make up for our low birth rates. We should be encouraging people in third world countries to have fewer children, and let the first world utilize robotics to help their aging populations instead of taking in massive waves of immigrants forever.
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« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2017, 03:15:35 PM »

Immigrants are working class Americans.

With the increasing levels of automation there is simply no need to constantly increase the supply of unskilled labor. And growing the population through immigration in order to prop up ponzi scheme economic systems is not sustainable. Putting restrictions on immigration to only high skilled people needed to fill a skills shortage is better for our own working class and will lead to an increase in wages, and a decrease in the cost of living as the demand for housing stops increasing so fast.
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« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2017, 03:17:40 PM »

Yeah, this is dead on the Hill:

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« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2017, 03:20:09 PM »

Jeff is spot on. Regardless of the politics of immigration, the math does not lie. If you extrapolate TFR from countries with large immigration rates, naturally you will have those same immigrants having more children than the low current TFR across the board in the US. While it would not equate to an overnight population eclipse of current US demos, it would put significantly more strain on the jobs situation and increase the need for benefits.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html

http://www.ncsl.org/research/immigration/us-immigration-snapshot-2011.aspx

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/01/immigrant-welfare-use-report/71517072/
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« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2017, 03:42:45 PM »

Stephen Miller will be America's first Jewish president.
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« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2017, 03:44:29 PM »

Yeah, this is dead on the Hill:

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This doesn't factor in Trumps world class deal making skills

Probably trump's way to temporarily satisfy the little brains of his alt-right Deplorable base.
It's doing wonders with some of them, right here on Atlas.
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« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2017, 03:45:23 PM »

Stephen Miller will be America's first Jewish president.

Second .....  after trump.
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« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2017, 03:49:58 PM »

Yeah, this is dead on the Hill:

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It is not a serious proposal.

They are throwing red meat to the base.

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« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2017, 03:52:53 PM »

Stephen Miller will be America's first Jewish president.

Second .....  after trump.

Cool it with the anti-semitic remarks.
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