The Hofoid House of Absurd & Ignorant Posts VII

[RINO Tom]

Zionism is an inherently nationalist ideology (and mostly an ethnonationalist one). Supporting mass immigration in Europe but not in Israel is hypocritical. Supporting big, beautiful walls in Israel to keep illegals and enemies out but thinking Canada and the U.S. should take in millions of immigrants is also hypocritical. That's basically all he said. I fail to see what's racist about it. It is correct.

Admittedly he said some more things regarding anti-Zionism not being anti-Semitic that I disagreed with, but that was not racist either.

Irregardles, Morty is clearly racist. He's argued for eugenics before on top of all his other comments.

Not a word.   However, yes, Morty is pretty clearly racist.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

I wonder why Mary Taylor is doing so poorly despite John Kasich's endorsement. I mean, he's a very popular governor and would win reelection easily if he wasn't term-limited.

Because Kasich is a Democrat?

Let's see, Kasich is extremely pro-life, has an anti-gay record (despite virtue signaling), has an A rating from the NRA, supports right-to-work laws, favors massive tax cuts, is anti-union, and is very hawkish on foreign policy. He's far to the right of even Joe Manchin yet somehow he's now a Democrat

[YE]

I wonder why Mary Taylor is doing so poorly despite John Kasich's endorsement. I mean, he's a very popular governor and would win reelection easily if he wasn't term-limited.

Because Kasich is a Democrat?

Let's see, Kasich is extremely pro-life, has an anti-gay record (despite virtue signaling), has an A rating from the NRA, supports right-to-work laws, favors massive tax cuts, is anti-union, and is very hawkish on foreign policy. He's far to the right of even Joe Manchin yet somehow he's now a Democrat

Context matters. To many GOP voters, he is a Democrat. Learn not to take PNM literally

[America Needs R'hllor]

Zionism is an inherently nationalist ideology (and mostly an ethnonationalist one). Supporting mass immigration in Europe but not in Israel is hypocritical. Supporting big, beautiful walls in Israel to keep illegals and enemies out but thinking Canada and the U.S. should take in millions of immigrants is also hypocritical. That's basically all he said. I fail to see what's racist about it. It is correct.

Admittedly he said some more things regarding anti-Zionism not being anti-Semitic that I disagreed with, but that was not racist either.

It's not the thread to debate it so I'll keep it short, but: Zionism is clearly a very big tent that has many sorts of people, all of whom believe in the concept of Israel as a Jewish nation-state. That's it. You can be a socialist zionist, an ultra-nationalist zionist, a globalist zionist, whatever. So what I found the most annoying was Mortimer taking zionism into a giant bear hug where he basically enforced his dogmatic race-obsessed ideology on all of us. Also- the issues of Israel, Europe, and the U.S. are all very different and have different complexities. This leads me to oppose mass immigration into Israel and Europe but support it (to some extent of course) in the U.S. and Canada. You can't ignore the fact that these countries are different.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

I wonder why Mary Taylor is doing so poorly despite John Kasich's endorsement. I mean, he's a very popular governor and would win reelection easily if he wasn't term-limited.

Because Kasich is a Democrat?

Let's see, Kasich is extremely pro-life, has an anti-gay record (despite virtue signaling), has an A rating from the NRA, supports right-to-work laws, favors massive tax cuts, is anti-union, and is very hawkish on foreign policy. He's far to the right of even Joe Manchin yet somehow he's now a Democrat

Context matters. To many GOP voters, he is a Democrat. Learn not to take PNM literally

Fixed.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Zionism is an inherently nationalist ideology (and mostly an ethnonationalist one). Supporting mass immigration in Europe but not in Israel is hypocritical. Supporting big, beautiful walls in Israel to keep illegals and enemies out but thinking Canada and the U.S. should take in millions of immigrants is also hypocritical. That's basically all he said. I fail to see what's racist about it. It is correct.

Admittedly he said some more things regarding anti-Zionism not being anti-Semitic that I disagreed with, but that was not racist either.

It's not the thread to debate it so I'll keep it short, but: Zionism is clearly a very big tent that has many sorts of people, all of whom believe in the concept of Israel as a Jewish nation-state. That's it. You can be a socialist zionist, an ultra-nationalist zionist, a globalist zionist, whatever. So what I found the most annoying was Mortimer taking zionism into a giant bear hug where he basically enforced his dogmatic race-obsessed ideology on all of us. Also- the issues of Israel, Europe, and the U.S. are all very different and have different complexities. This leads me to oppose mass immigration into Israel and Europe but support it (to some extent of course) in the U.S. and Canada. You can't ignore the fact that these countries are different.

The NIMBY syndrome is strong here.

[RINO Tom]

I wonder why Mary Taylor is doing so poorly despite John Kasich's endorsement. I mean, he's a very popular governor and would win reelection easily if he wasn't term-limited.

Because Kasich is a Democrat?

Let's see, Kasich is extremely pro-life, has an anti-gay record (despite virtue signaling), has an A rating from the NRA, supports right-to-work laws, favors massive tax cuts, is anti-union, and is very hawkish on foreign policy. He's far to the right of even Joe Manchin yet somehow he's now a Democrat

Context matters. To many GOP voters, he is a Democrat. Learn not to take PNM literally

Fixed.

Thankfully, being a Democrat or Republican is not subject to people's opinions.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

I wonder why Mary Taylor is doing so poorly despite John Kasich's endorsement. I mean, he's a very popular governor and would win reelection easily if he wasn't term-limited.

Because Kasich is a Democrat?

Let's see, Kasich is extremely pro-life, has an anti-gay record (despite virtue signaling), has an A rating from the NRA, supports right-to-work laws, favors massive tax cuts, is anti-union, and is very hawkish on foreign policy. He's far to the right of even Joe Manchin yet somehow he's now a Democrat

Context matters. To many GOP voters, he is a Democrat. Learn not to take PNM literally

Fixed.

Thankfully, being a Democrat or Republican is not subject to people's opinions.

I actually meant to cross out “literally” so that it said “Learn not to take PNM”. Effing mobile.

[Famous Mortimer]

Zionism is an inherently nationalist ideology (and mostly an ethnonationalist one). Supporting mass immigration in Europe but not in Israel is hypocritical. Supporting big, beautiful walls in Israel to keep illegals and enemies out but thinking Canada and the U.S. should take in millions of immigrants is also hypocritical. That's basically all he said. I fail to see what's racist about it. It is correct.

Admittedly he said some more things regarding anti-Zionism not being anti-Semitic that I disagreed with, but that was not racist either.

Irregardless, Morty is clearly racist. He's argued for eugenics before on top of all his other comments.

If you support laws against cousin marriage, you are a eugenicists.

[NOVA Green]

Heh, my church has talked about and condemned police shootings, frequently talks about issues of violence in black communities, and condemns Trump a lot and we still don't have any black members.

Hard to find black people in Minnesota

Hey man, it's 6.2% black. Maybe you live in the one area of MN where there are actually black people, but those rural areas are like 97% white.

And there's a black mayor in Helena Montana, but that doesn't mean Montana has many black people...

"The one part"...yeah the part that's by far the most populated, yes.

The black population of Minnesota is comparable to the black population of Washington DC in raw numbers.

This flame war about the number of blacks in Minnesota is absurd. And more to the point, is that BRTD was talking about his church, which I suspect either is in an integrated neighborhood, and/or quite near a black neighborhood, yet has no blacks in it despite being progressive on race and other matters. That was his point, and only point, and yet off the conversation went into the abyss.

Sounds like a typical BRTD "Seagull" maneuver once again...

His only contributions on Atlas these days, as a pale former shadow of his former glories, is once again to post crap against "Old Atlas" posters in order to feed his ego by re-posting on AAD about how reprehensible "Old Atlas" is....

BRTD is a sharp dude and has many valuable opinions to offer on a wide variety of topics, but once again his whole deal is apparently to make every single conversation about him, as opposed to some of the more insightful and detailed analysis that he used to provide as recently as 2-4 years back on "Old Atlas".

Got no time, attention, nor the desire, to focus posts simply based upon the hubris and ego of one individual poster on Atlas, that lacks the desire, will, nor intellectual capabilities to discuss nor debate critical political, social, economic, nor foreign policy issues of the Modern Times in which we all currently reside.

Re, did you read context at all? Torie is basically correct in the summary.

The post wasn't a major point but someone replied to it saying that there's basically no blacks in Minnesota at all, an absurd statement. And then everyone missed my point by talking about how other places have a higher black population than Minnesota which does not disprove the thesis. "This place has a higher black population than Minnesota" does not mean that Minnesota has a near neglible black population. And then the red herring if how Minnesota has a lot of lily white rural counties....because that's not the part I'm talking about.

Well to be fair I did read the original context, and was actually fairly sympathetic to your argument.

I guess sometimes what rubs me a bit raw with your more recent posting history on Atlas if essentially more like what sometimes feels like "Gotcha Games" where instead of engaging in more detailed conversations, over the past few years you have exhibited an extreme tendency towards posting on the "Absurd and Ignorant Posts of Atlas Thread" while simultaneously essentially ragging on and dissing the vast majority of the posters on "Old Atlas" behind the paywall of AAD.

If I weren't aware of how in recent years you essentially selectively "Strip Mine" Old Atlas for whatever reason to post elsewhere on the Internets, I guess I might be a bit less likely to call out your MO.

Actually, I agree with you on a wide variety of substantive issues, much more than you might suspect, but quite frankly your style and the means in which you conduct political discussion and debate on "Old Atlas" quite frankly rubs me the wrong way tbh.

Maybe spend a bit more time contributing to "Old Atlas" on substantive posts, as you did not so many years back, rather than using it as a platform for promote yourself elsewhere on the Internets???     

Anyways, fine you're right and point taken on the individual subject at hand.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

Zionism is an inherently nationalist ideology (and mostly an ethnonationalist one). Supporting mass immigration in Europe but not in Israel is hypocritical. Supporting big, beautiful walls in Israel to keep illegals and enemies out but thinking Canada and the U.S. should take in millions of immigrants is also hypocritical. That's basically all he said. I fail to see what's racist about it. It is correct.

Admittedly he said some more things regarding anti-Zionism not being anti-Semitic that I disagreed with, but that was not racist either.

Irregardless, Morty is clearly racist. He's argued for eugenics before on top of all his other comments.

If you support laws against cousin marriage, you are a eugenicists.

Thanks for posting directly into the thread.

[OSR stands with Israel]

This is my prediction of the 2044 electoral map.

Basically the slow trend of Racial polarization continues to a point where Republicans are winning 80% of the White vote, while Democrats are winning 90% of the Nonwhite vote. This results in very closely divided elections (in both the electoral and popular vote) who's outcome are solely based on Republicans turning out as many Whites as possible (primarily by using Racist appeals against Nonwhites), and Democrats turning out as many Nonwhites as possible (primarily by using Racist appeals against Whites). Economic issues are still discussed in campaigns, but only in an extremely racialized way, while Cultural issues dominate the discussion. This results in a very unstable and borderline Third-world country (America's economic and military power has diminished significantly due to a major economic crash caused by a massive equity bubble and over leveraged Corporate debt in the 2020s, combined with a embarrassing military defeat by Russia and China in the 2030s), in which elections are followed by large-scale civil unrest by whichever side loses them.

[Perlen vor den Schweinen]

This is my prediction of the 2044 electoral map.

Basically the slow trend of Racial polarization continues to a point where Republicans are winning 80% of the White vote, while Democrats are winning 90% of the Nonwhite vote. This results in very closely divided elections (in both the electoral and popular vote) who's outcome are solely based on Republicans turning out as many Whites as possible (primarily by using Racist appeals against Nonwhites), and Democrats turning out as many Nonwhites as possible (primarily by using Racist appeals against Whites). Economic issues are still discussed in campaigns, but only in an extremely racialized way, while Cultural issues dominate the discussion. This results in a very unstable and borderline Third-world country (America's economic and military power has diminished significantly due to a major economic crash caused by a massive equity bubble and over leveraged Corporate debt in the 2020s, combined with a embarrassing military defeat by Russia and China in the 2030s), in which elections are followed by large-scale civil unrest by whichever side loses them.

It appears King Lear has become a white supremacist.

[DINGO Joe]

There is a concern that certain devout portions of their population might push back progress on women's rights and gay rights. I, myself, would not want to see women being shackled into their homes and being forced to wear restrictive clothing. I wouldn't want to see gay marriage and protections be rolled back. I want to be able to walk into Subway and get a ham sandwich (something increasingly difficult in places like the UK). I don't want our cities to turn into the no-go zones of Stockholm or Bradford, or Copenhagen.


...and I wouldn't want Christians pulling that crap either.

The whole thing is Islamophobic, but the ham sandwich part raises it to another level.

[DavidB.]

There is a concern that certain devout portions of their population might push back progress on women's rights and gay rights. I, myself, would not want to see women being shackled into their homes and being forced to wear restrictive clothing. I wouldn't want to see gay marriage and protections be rolled back. I want to be able to walk into Subway and get a ham sandwich (something increasingly difficult in places like the UK). I don't want our cities to turn into the no-go zones of Stockholm or Bradford, or Copenhagen.


...and I wouldn't want Christians pulling that crap either.

The whole thing is Islamophobic, but the ham sandwich part raises it to another level.

Wanting to eat pork (something people cannot accuse me of, btw) is Islamophobic? Okay.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

There is a concern that certain devout portions of their population might push back progress on women's rights and gay rights. I, myself, would not want to see women being shackled into their homes and being forced to wear restrictive clothing. I wouldn't want to see gay marriage and protections be rolled back. I want to be able to walk into Subway and get a ham sandwich (something increasingly difficult in places like the UK). I don't want our cities to turn into the no-go zones of Stockholm or Bradford, or Copenhagen.


...and I wouldn't want Christians pulling that crap either.

The whole thing is Islamophobic, but the ham sandwich part raises it to another level.

Wanting to eat pork (something people cannot accuse me of, btw) is Islamophobic? Okay.

Its not Islamophobic, but it is Speciesist, so it is immoral either way.

[Landslide Lyndon]

The worst case is the media ignoring all the other issues in favor of this phony issue.

[Coolface Sock #42069]

There is a concern that certain devout portions of their population might push back progress on women's rights and gay rights. I, myself, would not want to see women being shackled into their homes and being forced to wear restrictive clothing. I wouldn't want to see gay marriage and protections be rolled back. I want to be able to walk into Subway and get a ham sandwich (something increasingly difficult in places like the UK). I don't want our cities to turn into the no-go zones of Stockholm or Bradford, or Copenhagen.


...and I wouldn't want Christians pulling that crap either.

The whole thing is Islamophobic, but the ham sandwich part raises it to another level.

Wanting to eat pork (something people cannot accuse me of, btw) is Islamophobic? Okay.

Its not Islamophobic, but it is Speciesist, so it is immoral either way.

Assuming you're not joking, thank you for posting directly into the thread.

[DavidB.]

There is a concern that certain devout portions of their population might push back progress on women's rights and gay rights. I, myself, would not want to see women being shackled into their homes and being forced to wear restrictive clothing. I wouldn't want to see gay marriage and protections be rolled back. I want to be able to walk into Subway and get a ham sandwich (something increasingly difficult in places like the UK). I don't want our cities to turn into the no-go zones of Stockholm or Bradford, or Copenhagen.


...and I wouldn't want Christians pulling that crap either.

The whole thing is Islamophobic, but the ham sandwich part raises it to another level.

Wanting to eat pork (something people cannot accuse me of, btw) is Islamophobic? Okay.

Its not Islamophobic, but it is Speciesist, so it is immoral either way.

I have been a vegetarian for well over two years because of an animal rights discussion on this forum and I don't disagree with this, but I would not use terms like "speciesist" because it makes your (otherwise good) argument come across as some ridiculous SJW talking point.

[DINGO Joe]

There is a concern that certain devout portions of their population might push back progress on women's rights and gay rights. I, myself, would not want to see women being shackled into their homes and being forced to wear restrictive clothing. I wouldn't want to see gay marriage and protections be rolled back. I want to be able to walk into Subway and get a ham sandwich (something increasingly difficult in places like the UK). I don't want our cities to turn into the no-go zones of Stockholm or Bradford, or Copenhagen.


...and I wouldn't want Christians pulling that crap either.

The whole thing is Islamophobic, but the ham sandwich part raises it to another level.

Wanting to eat pork (something people cannot accuse me of, btw) is Islamophobic? Okay.

He claims it's difficult to find a ham sandwich in the UK because 185 of more than 1500 Subways in the UK went to a halal menu.

[DavidB.]

There is a concern that certain devout portions of their population might push back progress on women's rights and gay rights. I, myself, would not want to see women being shackled into their homes and being forced to wear restrictive clothing. I wouldn't want to see gay marriage and protections be rolled back. I want to be able to walk into Subway and get a ham sandwich (something increasingly difficult in places like the UK). I don't want our cities to turn into the no-go zones of Stockholm or Bradford, or Copenhagen.


...and I wouldn't want Christians pulling that crap either.

The whole thing is Islamophobic, but the ham sandwich part raises it to another level.

Wanting to eat pork (something people cannot accuse me of, btw) is Islamophobic? Okay.

He claims it's difficult to find a ham sandwich in the UK because 185 of more than 1500 Subways in the UK went to a halal menu.

Wrong. He claims that it is increasingly difficult. As more than 10% of Subways in the UK now apparently do not serve pork anymore, his claim seems to be objectively true.

[DINGO Joe]

There is a concern that certain devout portions of their population might push back progress on women's rights and gay rights. I, myself, would not want to see women being shackled into their homes and being forced to wear restrictive clothing. I wouldn't want to see gay marriage and protections be rolled back. I want to be able to walk into Subway and get a ham sandwich (something increasingly difficult in places like the UK). I don't want our cities to turn into the no-go zones of Stockholm or Bradford, or Copenhagen.


...and I wouldn't want Christians pulling that crap either.

The whole thing is Islamophobic, but the ham sandwich part raises it to another level.

Wanting to eat pork (something people cannot accuse me of, btw) is Islamophobic? Okay.

He claims it's difficult to find a ham sandwich in the UK because 185 of more than 1500 Subways in the UK went to a halal menu.

Wrong. He claims that it is increasingly difficult. As more than 10% of Subways in the UK now apparently do not serve pork anymore, his claim seems to be objectively true.

Well, God help him if he wonders into a kosher deli.  And it's not difficult to get a ham sandwich in the UK at all cause free market.  It's like saying it's hard to get a ham sandwich in the US since more than 1000 Subway franchises have shut down in the last two years.

[Kingpoleon]

I wonder why Mary Taylor is doing so poorly despite John Kasich's endorsement. I mean, he's a very popular governor and would win reelection easily if he wasn't term-limited.

Because Kasich is a Democrat?

Let's see, Kasich is extremely pro-life, has an anti-gay record (despite virtue signaling), has an A rating from the NRA, supports right-to-work laws, favors massive tax cuts, is anti-union, and is very hawkish on foreign policy. He's far to the right of even Joe Manchin yet somehow he's now a Democrat

Kasich supports a 24-week ban, not an 8-week ban. Kasich’s only anti-gay record is voting for DOMA. Kasich supports the Parkland protesters. Kasich is so anti-union he was voted for by 53% of union members. Kasich has pledged to put a balanced budget ahead of tax cuts. Kasich is “very hawkish” in the sense that he supports fighting Assad, but has indicated that he would be slightly friendlier towards Russia and China.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

There is a concern that certain devout portions of their population might push back progress on women's rights and gay rights. I, myself, would not want to see women being shackled into their homes and being forced to wear restrictive clothing. I wouldn't want to see gay marriage and protections be rolled back. I want to be able to walk into Subway and get a ham sandwich (something increasingly difficult in places like the UK). I don't want our cities to turn into the no-go zones of Stockholm or Bradford, or Copenhagen.


...and I wouldn't want Christians pulling that crap either.

The whole thing is Islamophobic, but the ham sandwich part raises it to another level.

Wanting to eat pork (something people cannot accuse me of, btw) is Islamophobic? Okay.

Its not Islamophobic, but it is Speciesist, so it is immoral either way.

What is this word? My decision to buy chicken over beef at the market is now a f#cking “ism”?

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

There is a concern that certain devout portions of their population might push back progress on women's rights and gay rights. I, myself, would not want to see women being shackled into their homes and being forced to wear restrictive clothing. I wouldn't want to see gay marriage and protections be rolled back. I want to be able to walk into Subway and get a ham sandwich (something increasingly difficult in places like the UK). I don't want our cities to turn into the no-go zones of Stockholm or Bradford, or Copenhagen.


...and I wouldn't want Christians pulling that crap either.

The whole thing is Islamophobic, but the ham sandwich part raises it to another level.

Wanting to eat pork (something people cannot accuse me of, btw) is Islamophobic? Okay.

Its not Islamophobic, but it is Speciesist, so it is immoral either way.

What is this word? My decision to buy chicken over beef at the market is now a f#cking “ism”?

No. No it is not.(believing that animals deserve rights is).