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Question: If Bernie is the nominee, will you stay home or vote for someone else?
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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2017, 03:53:20 PM »

I would definitely vote for him.
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2017, 03:56:57 PM »

Almost everyone who says they won't vote for Bernie in 2020 would end up voting for him; coming from someone who spend years bitching about Corbyn, and then voted Labour in the election.

Bernie isn't some sort of Cynthia McKinney type figure; sure some of his supporters are idiots but he's not outside of the respectability zone
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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2017, 04:03:41 PM »

some of these replies are cringeworthy
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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2017, 04:10:58 PM »

I would vote for him while holding back vomit, just as I'm sure many of his supporters did for HRC.
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« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2017, 04:11:30 PM »

I'm dying about all the Dems who complained about how Bernie voters not playing ball despite the vast majority showing up and voting for Hillary, now saying they'd rather let Donald Trump win than Bernie. So hypocritical and shows the true colors of a lot of the Democratic party. Seems like people are holding an extremely petty grudge. Voting for Jill Stein over Bernie is hilarious since it's obvious they're way crazier than him.

Now you know how last year felt "Bernie or Bust!!!!!!!111!1111"
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« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2017, 04:12:28 PM »

I would vote for him while holding back vomit, just as I'm sure many of his supporters did for HRC.

Except those in WI, PA, and MI Wink and his supporters like Jimmy Dore who shilled for Trump.
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« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2017, 04:17:36 PM »

He and is supporters essentially said that black votes didn't count in the primary because they weren't for him, so why on earth would I vote for someone with that sort of sentiment? The left thinks that Sanders can win without black votes, so clearly he has his own special magical path that wouldn't require me to vote for him anyway.
Quote me where said that? Some of his supporters are stupid brocialists, but Hillary had plenty of obnoxious supporters. Bernie himself certainly never said that. Also Bernie easily gets 85%+ of the black vote.
He dismissed southern primaries where most of the black votes are http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/sanders-says-southern-primaries-distort-reality

The alt-left and Sanders supporters consider black votes to be "identity politics" that Sanders doesn't need to win. He's not going to perform well with voters that he and his supporters are dismissive of.
I mean the southern primaries absolutely are a distortion of the overall American electorate. Having so many super tuesday states representing one coalition of the party is a problem. If they were better dispersed I don't he'd have such a problem. By the way nowhere in that statement does he talk about black voters. Also he's also actually popular with young black voters having won that demographic during the primary. The main crux of his argument is that the south votes reliably republican anyway so why are should we front load them in the primaries. His statement has nothing to with a fear of identity politics or disdain for black people. You are just reading into a vague statement because you have chosen to think he's racist, when he clearly isn't.

Southern primaries majority black at this point and the bulk of black voters are in southern states, so dismissing those states is being dismissive of the black vote. I really don't care what he has a problem with, because the primary shouldn't be designed to guarantee him a win. I never once said he was racist and that word never came up until you posted it. This entire thread is a moot point, because Sanders is not going to get the nomination.
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« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2017, 04:22:36 PM »

I'm dying about all the Dems who complained about how Bernie voters not playing ball despite the vast majority showing up and voting for Hillary, now saying they'd rather let Donald Trump win than Bernie. So hypocritical and shows the true colors of a lot of the Democratic party. Seems like people are holding an extremely petty grudge. Voting for Jill Stein over Bernie is hilarious since it's obvious they're way crazier than him.

Now you know how last year felt "Bernie or Bust!!!!!!!111!1111"

Absurd. The circumstances that cause the Bernie or bust movement to be created are unlikely be recreated in 2020, so trying to get revenge on Bernie and his supporters is incredibly childish.
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« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2017, 04:23:49 PM »

He and is supporters essentially said that black votes didn't count in the primary because they weren't for him, so why on earth would I vote for someone with that sort of sentiment? The left thinks that Sanders can win without black votes, so clearly he has his own special magical path that wouldn't require me to vote for him anyway.
Remember the Bernie Bros telling us to vote for Bernie because of that picture of him being dragged out of a protest by police? (No proof that this protest involved racial issues) and because he attended the March on Washington? (The most mainstream event of the Civil Rights Movement). He wasn't exactly a Freedom Rider lol. Let some of them tell it he was MLK's closest white confidante. As if he was owed a vote from black people for not being a card carrying KKK member.
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« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2017, 04:35:07 PM »

I'd Vote for him enthusiastically
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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2017, 04:35:50 PM »

He and is supporters essentially said that black votes didn't count in the primary because they weren't for him, so why on earth would I vote for someone with that sort of sentiment? The left thinks that Sanders can win without black votes, so clearly he has his own special magical path that wouldn't require me to vote for him anyway.
Remember the Bernie Bros telling us to vote for Bernie because of that picture of him being dragged out of a protest by police? (No proof that this protest involved racial issues) and because he attended the March on Washington? (The most mainstream event of the Civil Rights Movement). He wasn't exactly a Freedom Rider lol. Let some of them tell it he was MLK's closest white confidante. As if he was owed a vote from black people for not being a card carrying KKK member.

I think those poor arguments harmed Sanders more than helped. There was an article where a black civil rights activist was basically told by a Sanders volunteer on the phone that he was a good choice because he supports welfare. Not good messaging at all.
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« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2017, 04:42:59 PM »

I would happily vote for him.
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« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2017, 05:00:25 PM »

He and is supporters essentially said that black votes didn't count in the primary because they weren't for him, so why on earth would I vote for someone with that sort of sentiment? The left thinks that Sanders can win without black votes, so clearly he has his own special magical path that wouldn't require me to vote for him anyway.
Quote me where said that? Some of his supporters are stupid brocialists, but Hillary had plenty of obnoxious supporters. Bernie himself certainly never said that. Also Bernie easily gets 85%+ of the black vote.
He dismissed southern primaries where most of the black votes are http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/sanders-says-southern-primaries-distort-reality

The alt-left and Sanders supporters consider black votes to be "identity politics" that Sanders doesn't need to win. He's not going to perform well with voters that he and his supporters are dismissive of.
I mean the southern primaries absolutely are a distortion of the overall American electorate. Having so many super tuesday states representing one coalition of the party is a problem. If they were better dispersed I don't he'd have such a problem. By the way nowhere in that statement does he talk about black voters. Also he's also actually popular with young black voters having won that demographic during the primary. The main crux of his argument is that the south votes reliably republican anyway so why are should we front load them in the primaries. His statement has nothing to with a fear of identity politics or disdain for black people. You are just reading into a vague statement because you have chosen to think he's racist, when he clearly isn't.

Southern primaries majority black at this point and the bulk of black voters are in southern states, so dismissing those states is being dismissive of the black vote. I really don't care what he has a problem with, because the primary shouldn't be designed to guarantee him a win. I never once said he was racist and that word never came up until you posted it. This entire thread is a moot point, because Sanders is not going to get the nomination.
I'll be the first to admit that Bernie didn't do enough to sway over black voters during the primaries. It was a fatal misstep in his presidential race. I don't think though, that he didn't value them however. He wasn't awful on issues of race though. He had the support of a lot of BLM type groups. It just seems like you're holding a petty grudge. I also don't see why Sanders couldn't win the nomination assuming he runs. He's the most popular politician in America right now. Of course he'd have trouble against the likes of Hillary, the Democratic base loved her. I don't know if he will run due to age, but he's a strong favorite if he does.
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« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2017, 06:03:33 PM »

Yeah, clearly every Democrat who supported Hillary in the primaries claiming that they wouldn't vote for Bernie out of spite will send a clear message to "all" of his supporters who didn't vote for Hillary. I'm sure that their reaction to Trump getting a second term will totally be to apologize to you guys and admit that you were right all along... lol. If you're a Democrat who wouldn't vote for Bernie over Trump, you have no right to complain about anyone who didn't vote for Hillary over Trump.

Anyway, I would vote for Bernie with enthusiasm, of course. His age really isn't that big of a concern. He's only five years older than Trump and seems in much better health.
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« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2017, 09:50:03 PM »
« Edited: August 07, 2017, 11:41:31 PM by TheLeftwardTide »

Absolutely, and I would probably donate and phonebank for him too.

I find absolutely hilarious and hypocritical that so many Clintonites that complained about "muh Bernie or Bust" (which is an insignificant minority to begin with), arguing that every Democrat has to back the nominee in the general, are now refusing to vote for Sanders in the general. It really shows the sheer lack of logic in their arguments.

Here's my stance (for Democrats). If you live in a state that was decided by <10% in the last election, you should really back the nominee unless if he/she is objectively a destructive trainwreck (like an actual Stalinist or racist). Otherwise, feel free to do whatever.

if Bernie or Warren aint on the ballot...ill probably stay home

since i live in a D +40% district...no point in coming out
Write-ins or voting Green is still better than staying home.

I would vote for him while holding back vomit, just as I'm sure many of his supporters did for HRC.
That's very respectable, thank you.
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« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2017, 09:51:15 PM »

It is my civic duty to vote against Trump. (And make sure he loses - Bernie is the best choice.)
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« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2017, 09:52:45 PM »

Yes, but very likely reluctantly, depending on the Veep. I don't trust someone that old to be President.
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« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2017, 09:52:51 PM »

Accidentally voted yes but meant no.

I would vote for a dog over Trump. Realistically speaking that would mean I would vote for just about any Democrat over Trump in 2020. Yes, even Alan Grayson, Jim Webb, or Joe Lieberman.
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« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2017, 09:53:53 PM »

Wait, sh**t, I voted yes.

I will vote for Bernie Sanders if he is the nominee, even though I think he's far too old and lacks the temperament. I will vote for any Democrat except Tulsi Gabbard.
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« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2017, 10:03:00 PM »



Everything works out in the end!
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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2017, 10:11:23 PM »

I voted "No (I), will vote for him" because that is the closest response.  Really my opinion is, "No, I will not stay home, and I would strongly consider voting for him."

I'm not much of a Sanders supporter, and certainly not a "Bernie Bro" (what a silly term, that), but of all the potential D nominees, he's probably one of the more likely ones I'd vote for, maybe a 50% chance, or even possibly higher depending on how the next 3 years go.  I'm always a late decider and usually don't make up my mind until a few days before the election.

That being said, I don't know how likely he is to win the nomination, or even run, for that matter.
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« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2017, 11:02:17 PM »

I voted "No (I), will vote for him" because that is the closest response.  Really my opinion is, "No, I will not stay home, and I would strongly consider voting for him."

I'm not much of a Sanders supporter, and certainly not a "Bernie Bro" (what a silly term, that), but of all the potential D nominees, he's probably one of the more likely ones I'd vote for, maybe a 50% chance, or even possibly higher depending on how the next 3 years go.  I'm always a late decider and usually don't make up my mind until a few days before the election.

That being said, I don't know how likely he is to win the nomination, or even run, for that matter.

He's too much of an conceited egomaniac not to run.
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« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2017, 11:03:14 PM »

Wait, sh**t, I voted yes.

I will vote for Bernie Sanders if he is the nominee, even though I think he's far too old and lacks the temperament. I will vote for any Democrat except Tulsi Gabbard Cory Booker.

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« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2017, 11:06:14 PM »

No (D), I will vote for him because...

MY KING IS ALIVE
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« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2017, 11:14:24 PM »

I will dutifully vote for him as our nominee, but I have absolutely no intention of going above and beyond that to get him elected.  

I trust his brigade of Bernie Bros should more than make up for my lack of enthusiasm. 
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