1972 if the country knew about watergate

[chipi12345]

Use maps.

[Mr. Smith]

McGovern/Shriver: 451 EV, 55% pv
Nixon/Agnew: 74 EV, 39% pv
Other: 6% pv

[Kingpoleon]

If Nixon confessed right away?

ND, SD, WI, MI, MA, RI, WV, OR, WA, and MD flip. Maybe Hawaii.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

[NewYorkExpress]

Agnew's corruption also comes out earlier and Nixon drops him from the ticket, replacing him with someone like George H.W Bush (who had foreign policy credentials-he was serving as UN Ambassador, and would later prove himself to be a loyal #2 with Reagan IRL). Ultimately, it doesn't really matter in terms of the election, as McGovern is horribly out of step with the country (again, thanks to Nixon meddling in the primary). The only thing that really changes is HW Bush becoming President sixteen years earlier.

[Don Vito Corleone]

Richard Nixon (R-CA)/ Spiro Agnew (R-MD) - 301
George McGovern (D-SD)/ Sargent Shriver (D-MD) - 237                       

With a better candidate (Say Humphrey, or Muskie or McCarthy or Sanford or Bayh) I would have the Democrat win easily, but McGovern was such a bad candidate that even with Watergate, I don't think he could have beaten Nixon.

[RC (a la Frémont)]

At best:

Source: http://www.270towin.com/1972_Election/ (Percentage map.)

[darklordoftech]

McGovern/Shriver: 451 EV, 55% pv
Nixon/Agnew: 74 EV, 39% pv
Other: 6% pv

Why would New Jersey be loyal to Nixon?

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

McGovern/Shriver: 451 EV, 55% pv
Nixon/Agnew: 74 EV, 39% pv
Other: 6% pv

Why would New Jersey be loyal to Nixon?

It was a solid Republican state back then. nonetheless, I think L.D's map is absurd. maybe if someone like Carter was the D nominee in '72 and watergate came out before the election they could win in a landslide, but McGovern was just an awful candidate.

[Cold War Liberal]

Well I'm pretty sure the country knew about Watergate, they just didn't know the extent of Nixon's involvement.

Also, McGovern was a terrible, radical candidate. One politician called McGovern the candidate of "acid, amnesty, and abortion." That stuck, and was devastating.

Oh and never forget the Eagleton affair. McGovern only had a few hours to choose a running mate, and Ted Kennedy (his first choice) refused, so he picked Eagleton without vetting him. Then it came out that he'd had electroshock therapy for depression (obviously not good for someone a heartbeat away from the nuclear codes), so they dropped him and replaced him with Sargent Shriver. That was a fiasco.

The icing on the cake? The guy who branded McGovern with "acid, amnesty, and abortion" remained anonymous for years, until relatively recently. It turns out, it was Thomas Eagleton, before he was McGovern's running mate. So he did McGovern in twofold.

[darklordoftech]

McGovern was a terrible, radical candidate. One politician called McGovern the candidate of "acid, amnesty, and abortion." That stuck, and was devastating.

Amnesty ended up happening and abortion is part of the Democratic platform today.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

McGovern was a terrible, radical candidate. One politician called McGovern the candidate of "acid, amnesty, and abortion." That stuck, and was devastating.

Amnesty ended up happening and abortion is part of the Democratic platform today.

Not to mention Nixon basically didn't care one way or the other about abortion, and appointed two SCOTUS judges who ruled in the majority on Roe v. Wade.

[Lechasseur]

McGovern does better but he still loses

[bagelman]

The whole thing doesn't go as well as Humphrey ends up narrowly nominated over McGovern. In summer the watergate scandal is linked alongside other more desperate plans never put into action for the GE (which were still on the drawing board). The question is not if Nixon will lose, but if Nixon will resign rather than go through the motions of running for reelection. We may see a President Agnew try vainly to rescue the party.

H³ 499

Crook OR Pres. Agnew 39

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

The whole thing doesn't go as well as Humphrey ends up narrowly nominated over McGovern. In summer the watergate scandal is linked alongside other more desperate plans never put into action for the GE (which were still on the drawing board). The question is not if Nixon will lose, but if Nixon will resign rather than go through the motions of running for reelection. We may see a President Agnew try vainly to rescue the party.

H³ 499

Crook OR Pres. Agnew 39

If Humphrey is winning this big, I don't see any way he loses Nevada or New Hampshire. and if he's winning Idaho, Nebraska and Wyoming will have already flipped to him. I also don't see why he would lose South Carolina while winning Virginia, Louisiana, and Florida. I'd give him everything except for Mississippi and Alabama, although maybe they go to unpledged electors instead of Nixon.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]