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Question: Would you allow Hillary Clinton to baptize your kids?
#1
Yes
 
#2
No
 
#3
Yes, but not when they were babies
 
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Author Topic: Would you allow Hillary Clinton to baptize your kids?  (Read 2237 times)
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« on: August 09, 2017, 11:39:33 PM »

Option 3. I would but only if they were old enough to know what was going on and specifically wanted to be.
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2017, 07:59:45 AM »

Hopefully your children have good enough taste in music to not be baptized in your Christian metal music sing song church.

I do NOT go to a "Christian metal music church" and I NEVER would if such a thing existed because I HATE metal music. HATE HATE HATE it. Like hate it more than South Park.
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2017, 08:00:08 AM »

She's not a catholic but I also don't care so it'll be up to my husband, who will be Jewish.

Uh, why does that matter? You know other Christian denominations do baptisms too, right?
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2017, 08:46:10 AM »

She isn't a Catholic priest, so the answer is no.

She's not a catholic but I also don't care so it'll be up to my husband, who will be Jewish.

Uh, why does that matter? You know other Christian denominations do baptisms too, right?

We aren't saying that other denominations don't baptize. We are saying that since we are Catholic we would choose a Catholic baptism which means that Hillary couldn't do it.

But right after that statement she literally says that she doesn't care.
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2017, 02:04:32 PM »


I don't believe in it either which is why I voted option 3.
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2017, 08:25:51 PM »

Baptizing babies isn't something I'd be necessarily opposed to if Confirmation hasn't become something kids/teenagers just do because they are effectively forced into it/want to make their parents happy/just want to get gifts out of it. But that's the way it effectively is, so people get robbed of any meaningful voluntary act of faith as adults (using the term here more to mean "grown" rather than legal adults, aka including high school age people), unless they convert and get baptized again (as I was.)

I actually do go to a church that baptizes babies, but only if the parents request it and otherwise just recommend "dedication" which I'd wager about 80% of parents in it choose, and has no problem rebaptizing people baptized as babies, (they call it a "reaffirmation of baptism" rather than simply baptism but it's the same thing for all intents and purposes.)
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2017, 02:53:41 PM »

No, my hypothetical children will be Jewish.

What if they converted?
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2017, 10:38:42 PM »

I don't believe in infant Baptism.  I believe Baptism is a choice for a believer of any age who understands that choice.

The Bible gives the Church the model of babies being dedicated to the Lord, with parents promising to bring them up in the faith.  That being said, Hillary Clinton's spirit doesn't witness to mine.  She does not accept the inerrancy of Scripture or the authority of Scripture, and I wonder how many Biblical doctrines she rejects.  Does she believe in Salvation by Grace through Faith in Christ, and His Death and Resurrection?  Does she, indeed, believe in the physical death and resurrection of Christ?  These are not trivial questions for a Christian; they are matters of ETERNAL significance. 

Until such time that Hillary Clinton makes a personal declaration of faith that is what Scripture would indicate is sufficient, I will never allow Hillary Clinton to have any role in the spiritual instruction of my 12 year old son.  And I will raise my son to be able to recognize a Charlatan and a Heretic and reject their false doctrine.

That's weird. I wouldn't even object to having a conservative Christian baptize my kids (assuming they were old enough to understand it since I don't like infant baptism either.)

I wouldn't even disallow a Catholic priest from baptizing my kids, as long as it wasn't understood as a "Catholic baptism", although it's tough to imagine the scenario in which it would occur. The only people I wouldn't allow to baptize my kids (aside from obvious exclusions, child molesters, etc.) are Mormons, non-Trinitarians, members of New Age-y not really Christian sects, or Unitarians.

(Well of course also Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, etc. too but that kind of goes without saying.)
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