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Brittain33
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« on: August 15, 2017, 05:26:30 PM »

Farenthold's district and Doggett's district. Nothing in Metroplex.

Potential for VRA "bail-in" because of findings on racial discrimination.

Thread on @politicswolf on Twitter.
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2017, 05:30:17 PM »

Jump to p. 104 here for specific findings.

http://redistricting.lls.edu/files/TX/TX%20perry%2020170815%20order.pdf

No discrimination/unconstitutional mapping found in Houston area or Metroplex because of lack of cohesion between African-American and Hispanic voters.

TX-23 passes muster as a Hispanic opportunity district. But we'll see what remedying TX-35 does here.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2017, 05:51:20 PM »

Great news!

I am going to draw a new map to fortify TX-07 and TX-32 while also preserving the GOP districts.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2017, 06:06:12 PM »

Great news!

I am going to draw a new map to fortify TX-07 and TX-32 while also preserving the GOP districts.

Literally who cares
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2017, 06:06:31 PM »

Great news!

I am going to draw a new map to fortify TX-07 and TX-32 while also preserving the GOP districts.

Literally who cares
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2017, 06:39:23 PM »

Great news!

I am going to draw a new map to fortify TX-07 and TX-32 while also preserving the GOP districts.

Literally who cares

I think krazen actually believe he has real political power.
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2017, 07:02:16 PM »

Great news!

I am going to draw a new map to fortify TX-07 and TX-32 while also preserving the GOP districts.

The courts strike down districts in Corpus Christi and Austin....and Krazen thinks that means redrawing districts in Houston and Dallas....
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2017, 07:34:33 PM »
« Edited: August 15, 2017, 07:50:07 PM by krazen1211 »

Great news!

I am going to draw a new map to fortify TX-07 and TX-32 while also preserving the GOP districts.

The courts strike down districts in Corpus Christi and Austin....and Krazen thinks that means redrawing districts in Houston and Dallas....

One man one vote is the rule of the land, pal. Pushing one district into Austin pushes the other districts out.

New TX-07....6 points to the right!



New TX-32....4 points to the right!



New TX-35 and TX-27.



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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2017, 08:33:03 PM »

What I don't get here is that someone, somehow, has a computer good enough to get Texas to work
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2017, 09:02:38 PM »

What I don't get here is that someone, somehow, has a computer good enough to get Texas to work
CA TX NY and for some reason OH
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2017, 10:43:52 PM »

TX-23 getting a pass isn't much of a loss considering it's already winnable for Dems anyway.

TX-35 is probably the big game changer in this since Travis county is split between so many districts.   
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2017, 01:48:06 AM »

What I don't get here is that someone, somehow, has a computer good enough to get Texas to work

My laptop is crap but it can run Texas no problem. California, New York, and at times Illinois are worse.
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2017, 08:30:36 AM »

Great news!

I am going to draw a new map to fortify TX-07 and TX-32 while also preserving the GOP districts.

Literally who cares

I think krazen actually believe he has real political power.

He's just trying to get a rise out of you.
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2017, 09:17:31 AM »

An interesting tidbit is that between 2012 and 2016, Gallego's Hispanic support dropped by 6%, while turnout for Hispanics was increasing by 20%, while for Anglo voters it was only increasing by 10%.

The largest part of the decision focused on whether another coalition district could be drawn in DFW, and whether this was required by Section 2 of the VRA, and the Gingles Test which requires cohesion among minority voters. It was interesting to see how twisted the testimony could be. Some suggested that Republicans had crossed over to vote in the Democratic Primary in TX-33 in 2012 (rather than vote in the presidential primary, or the senate primary (Cruz-Dewhurst). Statewide the Republican turnout was 2-1/2 times that of the Democrats. Others suggested that Veasey was the first choice of Hispanics, because they didn't vote in the primary, and cast their first vote for Veasey.

Little time was spent with Houston, since to create more coalition districts, you would have to blow up existing districts.

This left them to focus on TX-35 and TX-27 (and avoid the absurdity that TX-28, TX-15, and TX-34 are "reasonably" compact).
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2017, 05:09:08 PM »

TX-23 getting a pass isn't much of a loss considering it's already winnable for Dems anyway.

TX-35 is probably the big game changer in this since Travis county is split between so many districts.   

Not really many. Travis County is only split among 5 districts. The Dem party split Will County IL among 6 districts.
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2017, 05:48:26 PM »

What I don't get here is that someone, somehow, has a computer good enough to get Texas to work

My laptop is crap but it can run Texas no problem. California, New York, and at times Illinois are worse.
How can you run Texas but not Illinois?
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2017, 05:49:13 PM »

So are they literally just making districts for one term and then new ones AGAIN?
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2017, 05:50:24 PM »

Great news!

I am going to draw a new map to fortify TX-07 and TX-32 while also preserving the GOP districts.

Literally who cares
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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2017, 05:53:09 PM »

What I don't get here is that someone, somehow, has a computer good enough to get Texas to work
CA TX NY and for some reason OH

No trouble with OH but those other three are a hassle. TX required the patience of Job
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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2017, 06:03:02 PM »

So are they literally just making districts for one term and then new ones AGAIN?

Two terms, but yeah it's a travesty how long this Court took to work through this case.
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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2017, 06:25:04 PM »

So are they literally just making districts for one term and then new ones AGAIN?

Two terms, but yeah it's a travesty how long this Court took to work through this case.

What's really terrible about it is that it encourages the national parties to push state legislatures to gerrymander the hell out the maps in the next redistricting since the corrections by the courts take such a long time to process anyway that they basically get 2-3 free elections with rigged maps.
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« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2017, 07:14:10 PM »

So are they literally just making districts for one term and then new ones AGAIN?
They will be used for 2018 and 2020.
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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2017, 07:43:14 PM »

So are they literally just making districts for one term and then new ones AGAIN?
They will be used for 2018 and 2020.

But aren't people already registering for congressional candidacy for 2018? Sounds kinda illogical.
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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2017, 07:45:37 PM »

So are they literally just making districts for one term and then new ones AGAIN?

Two terms, but yeah it's a travesty how long this Court took to work through this case.
Damn, something needs to be done about Michigan. Districts 1-8 and 10-11 are incredibly bleached! And Melvindalers in MI-13 and Dearborners in MI-12 are cracked, since most of the people in those cities are Muslim. And the 13th and 14th districts are just black ghetto packing.
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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2017, 09:59:40 PM »



Would something like this work? It looks much cleaner than the current and I made sure there are plenty of Hispanic majority districts too

CD-16 (El Paso) 80% Hisp. Obama by 31
CD-23 (Big Bend) 76% Hisp. Obama by 0.4
CD-15 (Laredo) 91% Hisp. Obama by 40
CD-34 (Brownsville) 90% Hisp. Obama by 37
CD-27 (Corpus Christi) 58% Hisp. McCain by 8
CD-20 (South San Antonio) 78% Hisp. Obama by 34
CD-28 (North San Antonio) 47% Hisp. McCain by 2
CD-35 (Austin) 41% Hisp. 30% Hips. Obama by 46
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