PPP: Delaney and Trump tied; Trump leads Cruz, Pence, Kasich in primary
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« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2017, 06:16:42 PM »

Elizabeth Warren is polling worse because she's a woman. I hope people realize that. But by all means, queue the other justifications.

She has a condescending tone and has come to be associated with the fringe of her party?  Not as fun as your accusation, of course.

I don't get any sort of condescension from her tone, but maybe that's just me.
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« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2017, 07:02:03 PM »

this is just bad for both candidates (Trump is tied with an obscure candidate, and Delaney isn't beating Trump.
idk some dude nobody's ever heard of tying the incumbent president sounds pretty good
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« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2017, 07:08:00 PM »

Great poll!
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« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2017, 08:10:57 PM »

Is this poll junk? Because most polls that show Trump or other Republicans doing well are considered junk!
This poll doesn't "show Trump or other Republicans doing well" so that should answer your question
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« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2017, 09:57:54 PM »

I mean these are weak primary numbers for an incumbent President with the party's monied interest basically behind him.
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« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2017, 11:00:16 PM »

Why is no one talking about sanders and bidens 13 point lead on trump
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« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2017, 11:12:29 PM »

Why is no one talking about sanders and bidens 13 point lead on trump
Because those numbers have been fairly consistent in most 2020 polls so far.
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« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2017, 11:03:31 PM »

They also asked Prefer as POTUS:
Obama / Davis
Obama 56%
Davis 21%
yes the davis who was the confederacy's president
among GOP davis beats Obama
Obama 25%
Davis 40%

I am hoping for america's sake everyone who responded yes for Jefferson Davis didn't know who he was
Also Harris wins 66% of democrats
and Delaney wins 68% of democrats
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« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2017, 12:29:10 AM »

Apparently Trump has a positive approval rating amongst Jill Stein voters? Surely that can't be right
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« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2017, 02:38:53 AM »

Also, John Delaney's strategy has been a success.  Tongue  If he had waited another ~1.5 years to announce his candidacy, he would faded into obscurity faster than Buddy Roemer.  But his bizarre decision to launch his candidacy ~2.5 years before any primary votes are cast has actually garnered enough media attention to get one polling firm to include him in a national poll.


It's PPP. They polled for Harambe for gods sakes.
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« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2017, 08:30:54 AM »

Also, John Delaney's strategy has been a success.  Tongue  If he had waited another ~1.5 years to announce his candidacy, he would faded into obscurity faster than Buddy Roemer.  But his bizarre decision to launch his candidacy ~2.5 years before any primary votes are cast has actually garnered enough media attention to get one polling firm to include him in a national poll.


It's PPP. They polled for Harambe for gods sakes.

PPP's dumb, but thousands of people still read their site.  I'm just saying that by launching his candidacy so ridiculously early, he actually got himself a small slice of media attention that wouldn't exist for him if he'd waited until 2019.  Of course, it still won't be anywhere close to enough to get him anywhere in the primary.
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« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2017, 08:45:20 AM »

Why is no one talking about sanders and bidens 13 point lead on trump
Because those numbers have been fairly consistent in most 2020 polls so far.
Actually the numbers are more or less consistent for most of them. Booker and Warren dropped the most, respectively 45% to 42% and 49% to 45% since PPP's previous poll. But generally polling doesn't really mean anything 3 years before an election. Especially if potential candidates have low name recognition, Obama polled pretty terrible against both Clinton and McCain at the start of the primary and GE.
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« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2017, 08:47:04 AM »

Apparently Trump has a positive approval rating amongst Jill Stein voters? Surely that can't be right

This happens in almost every poll. We repeatedly show adoration for him.
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« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2017, 09:40:43 AM »

Elizabeth Warren is polling worse because she's a woman. I hope people realize that. But by all means, queue the other justifications.

Her persona is like fingernails against a chalkboard (although not to the point Hillary's is).  The "Pocahontas" thing hurts her as well; it's a cheesy action that she got caught at.

She's a populist academic, which is kind of an oxymoron.  She's from Massachusetts, which is kind of an anti-populist state.  If she were the nominee, she'd probably make the mistake of getting into a catfight with Trump and be shocked when Trump got the better of her.

That being said, she's a credentialed candidate, and a serious adult.  I think that the key to beating Trump in 2020 is for people to be tired of his Trump-schtick and be yearning for someone more studious and serious.  Warren can certainly be that, and she does have some working class gravitas in her narrative.  She needs some image work, however.  Unless the economy is in that toilet and/or we're at war on 5 fronts in 2020, Trump will be a far more formidable incumbent than folks believe right now.  He won election with a crummy approval rating, and he knows how to drag down the approval ratings of his opponents.
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« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2017, 09:49:27 AM »

Apparently Trump has a positive approval rating amongst Jill Stein voters? Surely that can't be right

The small sample size of Jill Stein voters leads to strange cross-tabs.
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« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2017, 09:05:15 PM »

Devastating. Even against politicians and other figures who have yet to announce, President Trump does badly.

By now many people may be trying to forget that they voted for Trump.
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