KY-PPP (D): McConnell trails Generic D by 7 points, Paul leads by 12 (user search)
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Co-Chair Bagel23
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« on: August 22, 2017, 12:01:50 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2017, 11:29:27 AM »

no wonder Democrats are in such lousy shape...they just straight give up

Uh, they certainly didn't give up in 2014, and McConnell won in a landslide despite the fact that most people (for whatever reason) thought Grimes had a decent shot at taking him out. He's not going to lose in 2020 with Trump winning the state by 25+ points and KY trending even further away from Democrats. And if you think Trump isn't going to endorse McConnell for reelection, you're kidding yourself.

In the end, they'll probably nominate someone like Andy Beshear who is touted as competitive and ends up losing by double digits on election day. This seat isn't going to flip, and certainly not before NC, CO, AK, MT, GA, etc. anyway. Republicans have to worry about a lot of states in 2020, but KY isn't one of them.

Exactly!
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E: -1.48, S: -1.83

« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2017, 11:08:55 PM »

no wonder Democrats are in such lousy shape...they just straight give up

Uh, they certainly didn't give up in 2014, and McConnell won in a landslide despite the fact that most people (for whatever reason) thought Grimes had a decent shot at taking him out. He's not going to lose in 2020 with Trump winning the state by 25+ points and KY trending even further away from Democrats. And if you think Trump isn't going to endorse McConnell for reelection, you're kidding yourself.

In the end, they'll probably nominate someone like Andy Beshear who is touted as competitive and ends up losing by double digits on election day. This seat isn't going to flip, and certainly not before NC, CO, AK, MT, GA, etc. anyway. Republicans have to worry about a lot of states in 2020, but KY isn't one of them.

Democrats addiction to data and polls full-fill a self-fulfilling prophecy in some ways. KY is just as ripe for the taking as CO but I guess if Democrats want to live and die by what the data tells them and if that's the case, they deserve to lose this seat. 2014 was a lousy year for Democrats and had the lowest mid-term turnout in US History (a large part due to Dems running total stiffs), if the Democratic party is ok with writing off every seat not beholden to ''muh demographics''...then frankly they deserve to lose

No.....no it is not.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2017, 12:16:08 AM »

It's all in the messaging. Democrats just need a nominee that will connect with people and tell the truth about dear daddy Mitch.

That should be super easy especially in a federal race in Kentucky Smiley.
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