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« on: August 28, 2017, 03:47:16 PM »

Wanted to find out what you all think of my Congressman and if he should be primaried.
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2017, 03:50:22 PM »

No, absolutely not. He is one of the best Democrats in Congress. His brave stand for life and his important voice against the Iran deal/foreign policy in general is a rarity nowadays in the Democratic Party.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2017, 03:52:13 PM »

Yes. As said in the Cuellar thread, any dem voting the way cuellar and Lipinski do in a D+5 district or more should be primaried.
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2017, 03:58:05 PM »

He is the worst Democrat in Congress, so yes, of course he should be primaried.
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2017, 04:00:30 PM »

Definitely.
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2017, 05:32:23 PM »

Trying to draw a comparison between Lipinski and Cuellar is silly. Lipinski votes with Trump just 27.5% of the time, while Cuellar votes with Trump 65.9% of the time. Lipinski is far more liberal than Cuellar and should remain in congress.
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2017, 05:44:13 PM »

Not as big a priority as Cuellar, but maybe
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2017, 05:47:25 PM »

Yes. As said in the Cuellar thread, any dem voting the way cuellar and Lipinski do in a D+5 district or more should be primaried.
Remind me again of how Cuellar voted for DOMA...
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2017, 06:41:05 PM »

No, absolutely not. He is one of the best Democrats in Congress. His brave stand for life and his important voice against the Iran deal/foreign policy in general is a rarity nowadays in the Democratic Party.
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2017, 06:42:29 PM »

No, absolutely not. He is one of the best Democrats in Congress. His brave stand for life and his important voice against the Iran deal/foreign policy in general is a rarity nowadays in the Democratic Party.

This right here is reason enough to primary him.
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2017, 07:04:03 PM »

The thing is, just being a "D+5 district" is misleading. Yes, the people in the district vote Democrat more than they vote Republican, but that doesn't mean they're necessarily liberal Democrats or even mainline Democrats. This district specifically has a much stronger pull toward social conservatism, probably thanks to having more Catholic immigrants there than other parts of Chicago - Irish and Polish - as well as a decent population of Catholic latinos and Muslim Arabs.

Similarly, Cuellar's district is a majority Hispanic district, with a specifically high population of Tejanos, who are more conservative than more recent Mexican immigrants.

Basically, the voter base in these districts prefers conservative Democrats over liberal ones, but still prefers Democrats to Republicans. PVI is a very useful tool, but it does have its drawbacks. Not all "D+5 districts" are going to prefer the same type of candidate.
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2017, 07:26:19 PM »

Just because a district is Democratic, doesn't mean the district is liberal. The same goes for Republcian/conservative. He's perfect for his district and is a heroic defender of life!
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2017, 07:34:46 PM »

Just because a district is Democratic, doesn't mean the district is liberal. The same goes for Republcian/conservative. He's perfect for his district and is a heroic defender of life!
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2017, 07:48:12 PM »

duh.
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2017, 08:01:12 PM »

Very few Democrats don't deserve to be primaried IMO, but yeah, if there's one in particular that has to go, it's definitely that scumbag.
he is an alleged scumbag for standing up for the rights of the unborn, yes.
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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2017, 08:02:23 PM »

If the voters in Lipinski and Cuellar's district want anti-abortion and anti same-sex marriage candidates they should just elect Republicans.
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2017, 08:14:00 PM »

If the voters in Lipinski and Cuellar's district want anti-abortion and anti same-sex marriage candidates they should just elect Republicans.

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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2017, 08:18:05 PM »

Very few Democrats don't deserve to be primaried IMO, but yeah, if there's one in particular that has to go, it's definitely that scumbag.
he is an alleged scumbag for standing up for the rights of the unborn, yes.
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2017, 08:20:34 PM »

If the voters in Lipinski and Cuellar's district want anti-abortion and anti same-sex marriage candidates they should just elect Republicans.


What does NYE have against the people of IL-03 and TX-28? What have they done to deserve being represented by Republicans.
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2017, 08:22:28 PM »

Cuellar is almost certainly the second most useless incumbent Democrat and that's saying quite a bit - he's a fiercely conservative blue dog in a district that voted for Clinton by TWENTY POINTS.

Second of course, to the infamous Jim Cooper, the only Democrat to regularly vote against minimum wage increases, the ONLY Democrat who voted against Hurricane aide in 2012, in a district that trended toward Hillary and she won by 19 points.

I suppose that makes Mr. Lipinski third.
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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2017, 08:24:13 PM »

If the voters in Lipinski and Cuellar's district want anti-abortion and anti same-sex marriage candidates they should just elect Republicans.
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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2017, 08:27:58 PM »
« Edited: August 28, 2017, 08:34:06 PM by Southern Speaker TimTurner »

Cuellar is almost certainly the second most useless incumbent Democrat and that's saying quite a bit - he's a fiercely conservative blue dog in a district that voted for Clinton by TWENTY POINTS.

Second of course, to the infamous Jim Cooper, the only Democrat to regularly vote against minimum wage increases, the ONLY Democrat who voted against Hurricane aide in 2012, in a district that trended toward Hillary and she won by 19 points.

I suppose that makes Mr. Lipinski third.
I think Justice Dems would do us all a service and focus on people like Cooper, who are very out of line with their districts.
That description doesn't fit Cuellar though, or Lipinski.
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« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2017, 08:36:27 PM »

Sure, everyone should have a primary challenger. Let the voters decide the kind of person they want to nominate for their elections.
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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2017, 08:48:52 PM »

Cuellar is almost certainly the second most useless incumbent Democrat and that's saying quite a bit - he's a fiercely conservative blue dog in a district that voted for Clinton by TWENTY POINTS.

Second of course, to the infamous Jim Cooper, the only Democrat to regularly vote against minimum wage increases, the ONLY Democrat who voted against Hurricane aide in 2012, in a district that trended toward Hillary and she won by 19 points.

I suppose that makes Mr. Lipinski third.

In terms of which democrats vote with Trump the most, Cuellar is in 1st place, Lipinski is in 9th, and Cooper is in 12th. Also in the Top 12 is Peterson, Sinema, Costa, O'Halleran, Gottheimer, Murphy, Bishop, Crist, and Schrader.
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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2017, 09:02:36 PM »

Cuellar is almost certainly the second most useless incumbent Democrat and that's saying quite a bit - he's a fiercely conservative blue dog in a district that voted for Clinton by TWENTY POINTS.

Second of course, to the infamous Jim Cooper, the only Democrat to regularly vote against minimum wage increases, the ONLY Democrat who voted against Hurricane aide in 2012, in a district that trended toward Hillary and she won by 19 points.

I suppose that makes Mr. Lipinski third.

In terms of which democrats vote with Trump the most, Cuellar is in 1st place, Lipinski is in 9th, and Cooper is in 12th. Also in the Top 12 is Peterson, Sinema, Costa, O'Halleran, Gottheimer, Murphy, Bishop, Crist, and Schrader.

Most of those people are in swing districts.

Anyway, Lipinski is awful and needs to go.
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