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« on: August 30, 2017, 07:18:03 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2017, 07:20:21 PM »

She'll win, but she wouldn't take the VP spot because ND still has a Republican governor who would appoint her successor.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2017, 07:20:46 PM »

Why waste a senate lifer on an effectively useless position (veep) for, at most, 8 years?

She would never win a Democratic primary for president.
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2017, 07:30:19 PM »

No, some people are just senators who represent a state and are not national politicians.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2017, 07:31:21 PM »

She'll win, but she wouldn't take the VP spot because ND still has a Republican governor who would appoint her successor.

When would the special election take place? Not before November 2022 or in summer 2021?
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2017, 07:56:26 PM »

If Heidi somehow manages to win reelection in her state...

I don't think you understand how Senate races work
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2017, 09:36:05 PM »

If Heidi somehow manages to win reelection in her state...

I don't think you understand how Senate races work

Do you think she wins reelection?
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2017, 09:45:52 PM »

If Heidi somehow manages to win reelection in her state...

I don't think you understand how Senate races work

Do you think she wins reelection?
Atlas largely considers it a lean D state. Heitkamp is an electoral titan in the state. She only lost her gubernatorial bid due to her getting breast cancer. I personally think she improves on her performance.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2017, 10:00:16 PM »

She is needed in the Senate and couldn't win a primary anyway.
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2017, 10:07:19 PM »

She wouldn't stand a chance in a presidential primary. She's probably going to continue to win reelection until she loses or retires.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2017, 10:16:31 PM »

If Heidi somehow manages to win reelection in her state...

I don't think you understand how Senate races work

Do you think she wins reelection?
Atlas largely considers it a lean D state. Heitkamp is an electoral titan in the state. She only lost her gubernatorial bid due to her getting breast cancer. I personally think she improves on her performance.

For an "electoral titan" she won very narrowly and surprisingly. If her seat had been up in 2010, 2014 or even 2016, she would have been routed.
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2017, 12:26:10 AM »

If Heidi somehow manages to win reelection in her state...

I don't think you understand how Senate races work

Do you think she wins reelection?
Atlas largely considers it a lean D state. Heitkamp is an electoral titan in the state. She only lost her gubernatorial bid due to her getting breast cancer. I personally think she improves on her performance.

For an "electoral titan" she won very narrowly and surprisingly. If her seat had been up in 2010, 2014 or even 2016, she would have been routed.
"If she had been up for election in record breaking GOP wave years she would've lost"

You realize she's had more than her 2012 Senate race. She won both her AG elections with massive landslides. She would've beaten Hoover for Governor too had she not gotten breast cancer. Now she's running as an incumbent in a Trump midterm.

It's nowhere near a safe race but Heitikamp is a very very good campaigner. That's why the race is considered tilt/lean D by a lot (not all) of Atlas posters.
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2017, 12:54:14 AM »

Heitkamp is in a Toss-Up race, and is only the 6th most vulnerable senator (after McCaskill, Donnelly, Brown, Heller, and Flake), but no, she's not going to be a VP pick. She wouldn't carry North Dakota for the ticket, people don't care about home states enough anymore. And even if she were to do it, ND is only 3 EVs.
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2017, 01:54:03 AM »

If Heidi somehow manages to win reelection in her state...

I don't think you understand how Senate races work

Do you think she wins reelection?
Atlas largely considers it a lean D state. Heitkamp is an electoral titan in the state. She only lost her gubernatorial bid due to her getting breast cancer. I personally think she improves on her performance.

For an "electoral titan" she won very narrowly and surprisingly. If her seat had been up in 2010, 2014 or even 2016, she would have been routed.
"If she had been up for election in record breaking GOP wave years she would've lost"

You realize she's had more than her 2012 Senate race. She won both her AG elections with massive landslides. She would've beaten Hoover for Governor too had she not gotten breast cancer. Now she's running as an incumbent in a Trump midterm.

It's nowhere near a safe race but Heitikamp is a very very good campaigner. That's why the race is considered tilt/lean D by a lot (not all) of Atlas posters.
Plus the Dakotas have a history of electing Democratic Senators even while voting strongly Republican at the Presidential level.
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2017, 12:19:43 PM »

I really don't think that the Democrats want to give the GOP an opportunity to appoint Heitkamp's successor, and then there's the nagging issue of if she is the VP: what if the President pick dies? Heitkamp is...not where most of the Democratic electorate is anymore, especially given the power of the oil industry in ND. Her becoming president through the VP-succession process would be a very difficult situation.
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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2017, 03:55:50 PM »

I really don't think that the Democrats want to give the GOP an opportunity to appoint Heitkamp's successor, and then there's the nagging issue of if she is the VP: what if the President pick dies? Heitkamp is...not where most of the Democratic electorate is anymore, especially given the power of the oil industry in ND. Her becoming president through the VP-succession process would be a very difficult situation.

But why is she still a Democrat if she doesn't share her party's values?
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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2017, 12:48:23 AM »

I really don't think that the Democrats want to give the GOP an opportunity to appoint Heitkamp's successor, and then there's the nagging issue of if she is the VP: what if the President pick dies? Heitkamp is...not where most of the Democratic electorate is anymore, especially given the power of the oil industry in ND. Her becoming president through the VP-succession process would be a very difficult situation.

But why is she still a Democrat if she doesn't share her party's values?

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« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2017, 01:08:50 AM »

I really don't think that the Democrats want to give the GOP an opportunity to appoint Heitkamp's successor, and then there's the nagging issue of if she is the VP: what if the President pick dies? Heitkamp is...not where most of the Democratic electorate is anymore, especially given the power of the oil industry in ND. Her becoming president through the VP-succession process would be a very difficult situation.

But why is she still a Democrat if she doesn't share her party's values?


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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2017, 09:56:52 AM »

I really don't think that the Democrats want to give the GOP an opportunity to appoint Heitkamp's successor, and then there's the nagging issue of if she is the VP: what if the President pick dies? Heitkamp is...not where most of the Democratic electorate is anymore, especially given the power of the oil industry in ND. Her becoming president through the VP-succession process would be a very difficult situation.

But why is she still a Democrat if she doesn't share her party's values?

She's a moderate Democrat, but she's certainly more liberal than someone like Joe Manchin.
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