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« on: August 31, 2017, 12:15:01 PM »

There seems to be a lot of them in PA and CT.  I understand that people of all political ideologies live in all parts of the country, but it's a little surprising how many people in the North voted for Breckinridge in 1860.  Why didn't they just vote for Douglas?
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2017, 01:10:39 PM »

Why was the democratic party so much stronger in CT than MA back then?
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2017, 01:39:10 PM »

Why was the democratic party so much stronger in CT than MA back then?

My guess is that CT was a smaller state and you had the influx of Irish immigrants migrating New York already making up a larger percentage of the population.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 02:18:10 PM »

He almost won Oregon because his running mate was from there.  California was a close three-way race between Lincoln, Douglas, and Breckinridge since there was a lot of Southern sympathy in the Golden State.  (Maybe California is not technically "Northern" but it wasn't a slave state.). As for Pennsylvania, maybe Buchanan supported his VP?
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2017, 02:28:13 PM »

Buchanan despised Douglas and I guess the state parties in PA and CT were controlled by his allies.
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2017, 02:54:54 PM »

He almost won Oregon because his running mate was from there.  California was a close three-way race between Lincoln, Douglas, and Breckinridge since there was a lot of Southern sympathy in the Golden State.  (Maybe California is not technically "Northern" but it wasn't a slave state.). As for Pennsylvania, maybe Buchanan supported his VP?

IIRC California and Oregon had sizable pro-slavery populations.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2017, 01:33:52 AM »
« Edited: October 30, 2017, 01:47:15 AM by shua »

Buchanan despised Douglas and I guess the state parties in PA and CT were controlled by his allies.

Buchanan was influential in PA; Thomas Seymour in CT.  Douglas voters in CT were often immigrants, whereas the Seymour faction were typically Yankees with angst over immigration and industrialization that fed into to a romanticized sympathy with the Southern cause.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2017, 10:28:13 PM »

Douglas and Breckenridge were on a fusion ticket in New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania.  Party bosses circa 1860 thought that Breckenridge would be stronger in PA then Douglas.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2017, 03:23:37 AM »

South Central PA was basically an extension of the South.

There was tremendous copperhead activity in that area during the war as well. Including places that were basically no go zones for the administrators of the draft.
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