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« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2017, 08:51:29 PM »

DACA wasn't such a promise either, it was just deferred enforcement. That was why DACA was such a cynical and overreaching maneuver - once you have 800,000 illegal immigrants voluntarily give their information to the government in return for temporary relief from enforcement action, it basically becomes unconscionable to use the same list to deport them, which forces Congress to legalize them.

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This is what always bothered me the most about the policy- that it was essentially executive granted amnesty.

Which, whether one agrees with the policy or not, it was a pretty smart tactical move by Obama. Ironically, a GOP led Congress may end up granting amnesty, which is pretty remarkable. I don't know if they have the balls to actually let DACA lapse. Maybe the GOP gets something in exchange, but with how feckless the GOP congress is, I sorta doubt that will happen.

Come to think of it, as much as Dems whine and moan in histrionic fashion about how Trump is the OMG WORST president EVAR!!!!!1! and we're on the precipice of the Holocaust and any minute now we should expect the Four Horsemen to come descending from the sky....


....meanwhile, back in reality, liberals are actually kinda winning. They certainly are doing a better job than the GOP of advancing their policy goals, even if incrementally. What has the GOP accomplished so far in this administration? Substantively speaking, nothing really, except Gorsuch (which isn't much of an accomplishment, since it just sustains the existing balance on the Court).

Other than that, all the GOP has done is waste the better part of a year, flailing about, attempting to repeal a policy that they neither had an alternative to, nor any real desire to repeal.. which became shockingly transparent, if it wasn't already pre-inauguration.

Otherwise, just a whole lot of nothing.  Real apocalyptic, let me tell ya.

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« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2017, 07:50:16 AM »

Ann Coulter and her ilk will go ballistic if Republicans pass any kind of amnesty

Hell that's a good enough reason to pass legislation tomorrow.
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« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2017, 02:15:20 PM »

Ann Coulter and her ilk will go ballistic if Republicans pass any kind of amnesty

Hell that's a good enough reason to pass legislation tomorrow.

It's already happening: [quote]Ann Coulter‏Verified account @AnnCoulter  53m53 minutes ago
 
Possible 2020 slogan: "I broke my promises, betrayed my friends & used my office to help my family, but, hey -- at least I'm not Hillary![quote]
 
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« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2017, 02:26:04 PM »

Do individual states have the power to block deportations within their own borders?

I don't have an answer to this question, but it's one I hadn't considered yet.

If the answer is yes, then it'll be funny watching cultists slam it even though they're all about "state's rights" for other things.

I don't know anyone on the "states rights" side who says federal immigration laws ever fell into a "states rights" category.

States don't have the right to block federal deportations, but the much maligned "sanctuary cities" are definitely a federalism/states' rights issue which is why I never had an issue when I was a much stronger Republican lean.

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« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2017, 02:28:32 PM »

Ann Coulter and her ilk will go ballistic if Republicans pass any kind of amnesty

Hell that's a good enough reason to pass legislation tomorrow.

It's already happening:
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His 2016 slogan could have just as easily been "I have no relevant qualifications for the office, am racist and sexist, and repeatedly lie about easily verifiable points of fact, but at least I'm not Hillary Clinton". It worked the last time so why wouldn't it work again?
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« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2017, 03:06:52 PM »

Ann Coulter and her ilk will go ballistic if Republicans pass any kind of amnesty

Hell that's a good enough reason to pass legislation tomorrow.

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His 2016 slogan could have just as easily been "I have no relevant qualifications for the office, am racist and sexist, and repeatedly lie about easily verifiable points of fact, but at least I'm not Hillary Clinton". It worked the last time so why wouldn't it work again?

This.
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