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« on: May 02, 2021, 10:35:24 PM »

In principle, I support it out of free speech purposes, but its TBH very creepy when I see it in action; especially when the "other side" is portrayed as inhuman monsters or knuckle-dragging fools.
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2021, 12:21:01 PM »

Taking a child under the age of 13 to a political event should be illegal.
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2021, 12:38:25 PM »

most quality children rebel at some point against their parents, so filling their head with socialistic ideals might leave you with a libertarian
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2021, 01:55:42 PM »

most quality children rebel at some point against their parents, so filling their head with socialistic ideals might leave you with a libertarian
Or the alternative, where their definition of “libertarian” is just “petulant, childish, impudent Republican who relies too much on external information and is bereft of the tools of introspection.”
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2021, 03:33:49 PM »

most quality children rebel at some point against their parents, so filling their head with socialistic ideals might leave you with a libertarian
Or the alternative, where their definition of “libertarian” is just “petulant, childish, impudent Republican who relies too much on external information and is bereft of the tools of introspection.”
what point that is related to the thread do you think you're making?
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2021, 03:36:39 PM »

Isn't this the whole point of having kids?

If you don't want to instill your values and beliefs into young humans...then are they really worth having?  lol

   
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2021, 03:47:23 PM »

what does "instill" mean, practically speaking?
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2021, 03:48:47 PM »

Isn't this the whole point of having kids?

If you don't want to instill your values and beliefs into young humans...then are they really worth having?  lol

Do you want a kid who agrees with you because they think you're right, or do you want a kid who agrees with you because you never exposed them to any other point of view and insulated them from competing value systems?
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2021, 04:11:59 PM »

Isn't this the whole point of having kids?

If you don't want to instill your values and beliefs into young humans...then are they really worth having?  lol

Do you want a kid who agrees with you because they think you're right, or do you want a kid who agrees with you because you never exposed them to any other point of view and insulated them from competing value systems?

Should I take this to mean you would expose your children to Christian, among other, religious belief systems?
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2021, 04:29:56 PM »

I have a lot of respect for the way my parents handled this--on questions of politics they always expressed their opinions but also never presented it as if they were the last word, and always left room for me to ask questions and disagree. In fact, they explicitly said that they'd still love me if I became a Republican, in much the same way they told me they would still love me if I was gay (have only taken advantage of the latter option).

They did inoculate me with certain moral values which IMO are basically the root of my political beliefs--a deep respect for pluralism and multiculturalism, a belief in free speech, respect for other people--but my political views aren't the same as my parents, which I think shows how certain common values don't necessarily produce identical ideologies.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2021, 05:13:52 PM »

Isn't this the whole point of having kids?

If you don't want to instill your values and beliefs into young humans...then are they really worth having?  lol

Do you want a kid who agrees with you because they think you're right, or do you want a kid who agrees with you because you never exposed them to any other point of view and insulated them from competing value systems?

Should I take this to mean you would expose your children to Christian, among other, religious belief systems?

Exposing your children to Christianity in an honest way is the easiest way to ensure that they don't become Christians, so yes.
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2021, 08:24:26 PM »

Something that’s inevitable more often than not.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2021, 08:46:55 PM »

It depends on the view. Instilling views on issues like gun control or foreign policy or whatever isn't good. But it is good to make sure that your children have good views on civil rights (that they wouldn't be racist, homophobic, transphobic).
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2021, 09:25:34 PM »

Not good. I'd say the lion's share of kids whose parents forced certain politics on them seek out the opposite politics to spite them or atleast set themselves apart. A lot of bad politics come from that.
It's a trope that Republican parents = socialist child and to a lesser extent hippie lib parents = white nationalist/alternative right child
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2021, 12:14:52 AM »

It depends on the view. Instilling views on issues like gun control or foreign policy or whatever isn't good. But it is good to make sure that your children have good views on civil rights (that they wouldn't be racist, homophobic, transphobic).

Why is one good but not the other?
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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2021, 12:50:54 AM »

Mine tried. They failed. Four times. Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2021, 09:15:54 AM »

I suppose it depends on what you mean on "instilling". I see no issue with educating your children on your worldview and explaining why you believe what you believe and what not, so as long as you tolerate disagreement and dissent from them as well.
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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2021, 09:40:01 AM »

It depends on the view. Instilling views on issues like gun control or foreign policy or whatever isn't good. But it is good to make sure that your children have good views on civil rights (that they wouldn't be racist, homophobic, transphobic).

Why is one good but not the other?

Because it's a parents' job to instill basic moral values into their children (stealing is wrong, be kind to others). Transphobia and racism are moral failings. Supporting loose gun control or a low corporate tax rate are not moral failings.
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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2021, 01:56:17 PM »

It depends on the view. Instilling views on issues like gun control or foreign policy or whatever isn't good. But it is good to make sure that your children have good views on civil rights (that they wouldn't be racist, homophobic, transphobic).

Why is one good but not the other?

Because it's a parents' job to instill basic moral values into their children (stealing is wrong, be kind to others). Transphobia and racism are moral failings. Supporting loose gun control or a low corporate tax rate are not moral failings.

Holy sh*t.  Shocked
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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2021, 06:06:11 PM »

Would I tell my kids that they must vote Republican?  No, I wouldn't.

Will I raise my kids in a Christian environment with certain morals and values that come from that?  Absolutely, I will.
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2021, 07:15:19 AM »

I find kids being dragged to anti abortion marches unhappy. Teenagers often strongly disagree with their parents if dragged to those.
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