Oakvale/Potus for Atlasia: Concession & endorsement
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
March 28, 2024, 04:45:56 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Atlas Fantasy Elections
  Atlas Fantasy Elections (Moderators: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee, Lumine)
  Oakvale/Potus for Atlasia: Concession & endorsement
« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2] 3
Author Topic: Oakvale/Potus for Atlasia: Concession & endorsement  (Read 3780 times)
Oakvale
oakvale
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,827
Ukraine
Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -4.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2017, 06:43:49 AM »

A familiar chill went down my spine when I saw that Senator Reluctant Nay had posted in my beautiful thread, and yes indeed I see he has filled it with his incoherent senile ramblings.

No matter - it's clear that as every slimy creature crawls from the depths of the swamp to bark at us we are moving ever closer to the nomination. From tomorrow I will be revealing our ambitious plan of action for our first week in office - big stuff!

I'd also encourage all Atlasians, not just Federalists, to watch the debate between the President and myself.
Logged
Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
Moderator
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 54,123
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2017, 03:38:11 PM »

A familiar chill went down my spine when I saw that Senator Reluctant Nay had posted in my beautiful thread, and yes indeed I see he has filled it with his incoherent senile ramblings.

No matter - it's clear that as every slimy creature crawls from the depths of the swamp to bark at us we are moving ever closer to the nomination. From tomorrow I will be revealing our ambitious plan of action for our first week in office - big stuff!

I'd also encourage all Atlasians, not just Federalists, to watch the debate between the President and myself.

Says someone who joined only a year after I did. Tongue
Logged
Mr. Reactionary
blackraisin
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,784
United States


Political Matrix
E: 5.45, S: -3.35

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2017, 03:57:14 PM »

A familiar chill went down my spine when I saw that Senator Reluctant Nay had posted in my beautiful thread, and yes indeed I see he has filled it with his incoherent senile ramblings.

No matter - it's clear that as every slimy creature crawls from the depths of the swamp to bark at us we are moving ever closer to the nomination. From tomorrow I will be revealing our ambitious plan of action for our first week in office - big stuff!

I'd also encourage all Atlasians, not just Federalists, to watch the debate between the President and myself.

Stephen Colbert called. He wants his bad parody of of the otherside bit back.
Logged
Rjjr77
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,994
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2017, 10:04:49 AM »

give me three reasons why I shouldnt vote for you.
Logged
Bacon King
Atlas Politician
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 18,822
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.63, S: -9.49

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2017, 02:16:50 PM »

hi, potential voter here, I'd like to know what is your opinion on the "Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions Movement"?
Logged
Oakvale
oakvale
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,827
Ukraine
Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -4.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2017, 04:55:03 PM »

give me three reasons why I shouldnt vote for you.

If you're happy with the direction things are going and don't want to shake things up - I'm not your guy.

If you think the reigning establishment has got it right and we're on our way to an ever-better future - I'm not your guy.

If you think a blob of bland consensus, where every political party appears identical and policy differences are quietly snuffed out through the suffocation of legislative bureaucracy and limp compromise, is the ideal situation for our nation - I'm not your guy. Vote for someone else.

If you don't think these things, then join us. This is the movement for you.

hi, potential voter here, I'd like to know what is your opinion on the "Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions Movement"?

Thanks for the question, old friend. It's an important foreign policy issue.

If we want to have an honest debate about the Israel-Palestine conflict we can do that. But the BDS 'movement' is odious and at times reminds me of nothing so much as some kind of ghoulish reincarnation of the anti-Jewish boycotts of centuries past - it's an anti-Semitic witch hunt. Plain and simple. It's sadly telling that the radical left focus every last bit of their ire on the only functioning democracy in the region while turning a blind eye to the crimes of Israel's neighbours.
Logged
Poirot
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,517
Canada


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2017, 03:52:43 PM »

I am endorsing this ticket for the primary, When I read your first post I was excited to see someone with proposals to make Atlasia great and not just continue as if everything is perfect. I've seen and heard citizens lose interest over the past months. Maybe your proposals would not all be approved but at least you are a reformist with plans to improve the situation.

Nyman is bloated. Regions suffer from it. Regions are not in superb shape contrary to the spin. Just look at Lincoln. We are down to three regions and Lincoln is down to three persons in the regional assembly, there is not a lot of legislation and the speaker is wishing for more participation. Regions should have more relevance.

The game is more fun when there is a diversity of opinion. I believe you would differentiate from labor instead of making the two parties indistinguishable.

The country needs someone who recognizes there are problems and is ready to tackle them. 
Logged
Simfan34
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,744
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.90, S: 4.17

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2017, 04:04:01 PM »
« Edited: September 20, 2017, 04:06:14 PM by Simfan34 »

Former Governor Simfan34 issued a brief statement from his personal office at Stanford University's Hoover Institution today:

"All right-thinking Atlasians should rally behind the eminently qualified and, indeed, long overdue candidacy of Oakvale and Potus. Now more than ever, our nation needs the sort of pragmatic, dynamic, and common-sense leadership only people in their tradition can provide.

I have not necessarily kept pace with Atlasian politics; this is the first time I have heard of Ted Bessell's treacherous betrayal, and it has shook me to the core. We are in sore need of People-oriented leadership and they are the ones who can provide it."
Logged
Simfan34
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,744
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.90, S: 4.17

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2017, 04:42:49 PM »

That said, Elizabeth Warren's platform is a marked improvement from the heady days of TNFism.
Logged
Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
Moderator
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 54,123
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2017, 05:07:20 PM »

That said, Elizabeth Warren's platform is a marked improvement from the heady days of TNFism.

Well when 60% top tax rate is considered "moderate" and 50% is considered an extreme Conservative position (all the times I tried and failed to get it back down to 50% only to have Labor vote as a block to kill it), just illustrates how far left he pulled the spectrum. I remember arguing up an down how 90% wouldn't work now and didn't even work in the 1950's.

I remember when he tried to nationalize railroads, that was an especially fun debate since I know a bit about railroads and his only response was oft resorted to marxist dogma.
Logged
Simfan34
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,744
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.90, S: 4.17

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2017, 05:14:44 PM »

Who can forget the energy debate?
Logged
Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
Moderator
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 54,123
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2017, 05:24:11 PM »


Sadly I missed most of the fun after Spiral won that special election. It was the last election I was able to really GOTV hard for until April 2015. Damn good thing he won it and not Labor, otherwise power would have been nationalized and Tyrion confirmed as VP weeks earlier.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=194522.msg4253857#msg4253857

There was still a lot of anger brewing in the Feds against third parties after what happened in June and so getting all but 1 JCL voter to second Spiral over Cynic was not easy. I recall nationalizing power was still sitting in the queue at time or perhaps it had the floor, but I used TNF Socialism and nationalization in the GOTV PMs asking them to second Spiral for the sake of blocking his radical agenda.

Logged
Lumine
LumineVonReuental
Moderator
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,610
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2017, 05:27:30 PM »

The more time passes, the more weird the DemPGH Administration looks in retrospective. Such a horrible time, yet at the same time ironically fun.
Logged
Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
Moderator
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 54,123
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2017, 05:29:27 PM »

Basically I defined every election for Senate from the October 2013 Regional Senate elections through August of 2014 when I was no longer able to get online, in terms of "If more conservative candidate doesn't win, the Labor candidate will be a vote for the TNF agenda". Which was not a lie as Labor always seemed to vote as a block on most key issues. So whether or not "bore or Tyrion" were considered "reasonable laborites", made little difference and people finally learned that distinction was meaningless, when it was almost too late.


Logged
Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
Moderator
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 54,123
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2017, 05:34:46 PM »

The more time passes, the more weird the DemPGH Administration looks in retrospective. Such a horrible time, yet at the same time ironically fun.

I think DemPGH was a horrible President to have "as a Laborite" with a split Labor Senate and TNF the leading LAborite in the Senate.

Had DemPGH been President with a 6-4 Non Labor Senate from the getgo , I think a lot of things would have been much better. You probably would have taken the PPTship after I lost my internet, without that 2 months of TNF control, and bills like nationalizing power would have died 6-4 in the Senate. Like they had died 5-5 with Cincy's tie breaker for no under Duke's administration.

But unfortunately, it seemed too few people seem to care enough about Senate seats. Be it Superique against Tyrion, or you against TNF, there were many opportunities to avert that near disaster, but too many people were focused on other considerations and not on knocking out Socialist Senators.
Logged
Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
Moderator
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 54,123
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2017, 05:37:10 PM »

OF course in the best of all worlds, my financial situation would have been stable, and instead of no Federalist running I would have ran in June with Cincy or Superique as my VP and there never would have been a DemPGH Presidency in 2014. Tongue
Logged
Oakvale
oakvale
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,827
Ukraine
Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -4.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2017, 06:33:47 PM »

Wow! Thank you Poirot and Simfan for your beautiful words of support. I'm honoured. Our momentum is sure to grow ever more with you on board.

Are there any brakes on this train?!
Logged
Simfan34
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,744
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.90, S: 4.17

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2017, 07:03:55 PM »

The more time passes, the more weird the DemPGH Administration looks in retrospective. Such a horrible time, yet at the same time ironically fun.

We certainly lived in interesting times. Political function is boring.
Logged
Devout Centrist
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 10,099
United States


Political Matrix
E: -99.99, S: -99.99

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2017, 12:57:13 PM »

Will support IF you endorse social credit
Logged
Former Senator Haslam2020
Haslam2020
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3,345
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2017, 08:17:58 PM »

If you win the nomination, I will support you. I hope to see you run again if you don't win though. You remind me of a Reagan-esque figure.
Logged
Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
Moderator
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 54,123
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #45 on: September 22, 2017, 11:45:51 PM »

If you win the nomination, I will support you. I hope to see you run again if you don't win though. You remind me of a Reagan-esque figure.

I am not sure what Reagan has in common with the villain in an Alistair MacLean novel, or movie based on the same if you prefer. 
Logged
rpryor03
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,825
Bahamas


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #46 on: September 22, 2017, 11:51:21 PM »

I am not sure what Reagan has in common with the villain in an Alistair MacLean novel, or movie based on the same if you prefer. 

This is what our FEDERALIST "UNBIASED" Chair has to say about one of the candidates! Clear bias on his part! Crooked Yankee must be taken down!
Logged
Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
Moderator
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 54,123
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2017, 11:55:59 PM »

I am not sure what Reagan has in common with the villain in an Alistair MacLean novel, or movie based on the same if you prefer. 

This is what our FEDERALIST "UNBIASED" Chair has to say about one of the candidates! Clear bias on his part! Crooked Yankee must be taken down!

Says the man who couldn't even show up for single god damn NSC meeting.

What are you gonna do, get that guy who can stop me? What was his name? Michael Mac Doesn't Exist!

The rules are the rules, the votes are the votes. I will certify it based on what it is. But I am not going to stand by for this bullsh**t any longer.

I am severely disappointed in your Rpryor. You sent out a PM mentioning a Nuclear attack that did not happen. This is what I call lying. Come back to me, where is the Rpryor I knew and loved?
Logged
Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
Moderator
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 54,123
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #48 on: September 23, 2017, 12:03:29 AM »

And where the hell is your campaign thread, Rpryor?

You haven't been active in most any of your recent offices, the voters deserve to know you give a sh**t enough to at least make a thread about where you stand.

I might even still endorse you in it! Evil
Logged
Oakvale
oakvale
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,827
Ukraine
Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -4.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #49 on: September 23, 2017, 09:38:59 PM »
« Edited: September 23, 2017, 10:00:01 PM by Oakvale »

Friends -

Well, we fought the good fight, but we have come up short. I acknowledge that the President will be the Federalist nominee, and wish her well. I bear no ill will against her personally.

I knew it would be a Herculean task to win the Federalist nomination against a sitting, popular President. That we could not quite make it across the finish line is a disappointment but no great surprise. I am proud that we stood up for what we believed in, waged an honest campaign, and made our case for why this country needs radical change.

And, yes, yes, recriminations and legal action on the foul campaign against me are a matter for other days. Rest assured that I truly think that the fight was not fair, and I believe my work is not yet done. I am considering legal action against the more foul accusers. More will follow. I must, however, thank former president DFW for his public apology to Potus and I. It showed real character, and I will always appreciate someone admitting when they were wrong.

No matter.

There are so many people that deserve thanks. More than could be listed here. But in particular I want to thank one of our most respected statesmen, Winfield, for his sage advice and counsel. He would have been a vital part of an Oakvale administration. Rpryor, whose help was truly - truly invaluable to our long-shot, dark-horse campaign, and who showed immense courage in supporting us.  Simfan, who has always been a friend and a true Atlasian institution. And Poirot, someone with whom I've had my share of clashes but has always been a voice of outsider integrity, and whose endorsement gave us a boost at a time when we were languishing in obscurity - thank you. It meant the world.

And, most of all, to my partner these last few giddy weeks - former Secretary of State Potus. I will paraphrase the words of better writers - he is the truest friend, he has the farthest vision. He is the greatest man I have ever known.

I very much regret that he will not be the next Vice-President of Atlasia. It is a dire loss to our country. But I know he'll continue to be an essential contributor to the progress of country. I genuinely could not have asked for a better running mate.

Everything I said in my announcement speech, my friends, remains true. Our nation is in crisis. Our regions wither on the vine. Our democratic organs die away before our very eyes. We stand at a stark crossroads. Where we go from here may determine the fate of our country.

I have spent many agonising hours talking with my closest advisors and colleagues on what the correct decision to take now is. One part of me desperately wants to continue my crusade, whatever the odds - I believe now, as I believed just a few short weeks ago, that my vision for Atlasia is the right one, and that an Oakvale presidency would revive the nation and revitalise its failing institutions.

However.

However. I have sadly concluded that, while the crusade must - must - continue, I am not the right man to take forward this mission. I have been tarred and feathered. An all-too ugly and divisve primary has left its mark. A continuing Oakvale/Potus campaign would only risk the ultimate calamity - splitting our party and electing Crooked Harry Truman to Atlasia's highest office. I would do anything to avoid that disaster. We would not survive such a turn of events.

I am tonight suspending my campaign. And I am therefore today calling on former president Lumine, one of our most respected and revered statesmen, to enter the presidential race. He is Atlasia's greatest hope for a better future.

To be sure, Lumine and I disagree on much. I have no doubt he disagrees in the strongest terms with my recent attacks on my party's leadership. I am sure he is appalled at my tone and my rhetoric. But, nonetheless, I believe he understands better than the other candidates the dire straits we find ourselves in and has the vision, and the plan, to dig us out of our self-made grave.

I urge Lumine to run. Seek the Presidency. Atlasia cries out for your leadership.

I urge all my supporters to vote for him, and, in that event, grant their second preference to the incumbent President. We have battled fiercely, but, at the end of the day, I have little doubt that whatever our real disagreements - and they are real and serious - the worst day of a Fhtagn presidency is better than the best day of a Crooked Harry Truman administration of corruption and vice. Should the former president not heed my call I will cast my ballot for her without hesitation.

I thank all those who braved the political headwinds to support my campaign. I thank Potus for his unwavering support and service in support of our great cause.

I am, sorry as I am to disappoint my enemies, not going anywhere. I remain a Federalist. I remain a radical. I remain, above all else, an Atlasian citizen. I will fight every day for what I truly believe in - that we must change, and must change dramatically, to survive.

I wish everyone, friend or foe, well.

That is that.

Thank you, and good night.





Former Supreme Court Justice of Atlasia

Former candidate for the Federalist Party presidential nomination, 2017


Logged
Pages: 1 [2] 3  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.064 seconds with 12 queries.