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« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2017, 08:44:44 PM »

80% - though it'd be best IMO if she stayed far away.
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« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2017, 10:03:28 PM »

^^
Maybe she should of visited Wisconsin and Michigan, enough with the lame excuse of getting more votes...YOU LOST. Anyway to the threads question I'd say about 15-20%.




I am really tired of your asinine comments in every thread. I don't if CTR, the David Brock Super pac is still paying 1M $ for online trolls.

So, at your earlier comment about purity test & what not garbage @ my comment - I have no response. You can keep trolling. I really hope for all this trolling, that you are being compensated well.
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« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2017, 10:05:50 PM »

^^
Maybe she should of visited Wisconsin and Michigan, enough with the lame excuse of getting more votes...YOU LOST. Anyway to the threads question I'd say about 15-20%.



I am really tired of your asinine comments in every thread. I don't if CTR, the David Brock Super pac is still paying 1M $ for online trolls.

So, at your earlier comment about purity test & what not garbage @ my comment - I have no response. You can keep trolling. I really hope for all this trolling, that you are being compensated well.
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« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2017, 10:20:43 PM »

I am really tired of your asinine comments in every thread. I don't if CTR, the David Brock Super pac is still paying 1M $ for online trolls.

So, at your earlier comment about purity test & what not garbage @ my comment - I have no response. You can keep trolling. I really hope for all this trolling, that you are being compensated well.

Pointing out the fact that Bernie Sanders LOST the primaries by millions of votes is trolling now? Jeez I guess reality is trolling you.

Naah that has nothing to do with trolling. Even Bernie supporters including me has said that multiple times. You know you are a troll which all your ridiculous hateful irrelevant posts which has no relation to the topic.

I hope you are being compensated for that because you truly deserve recognition. You made a thread about HRC speaking in the 2020 Convention entirely about blasting Bernie & about the 2016 primary. Would not like to stretch this discussion.
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« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2017, 11:00:17 PM »

90%. Even if Sanders will be there, he will give Clinton the chance to speak no matter how ugly she makes it. Sanders is not vindictive or an egoist about this.

As long as she doesn't descend to blatant personal attacks in 2020...I think Dems will be united. Atleast for the SC, which will be lost for generations. 2020 is possibly the biggest election in decades..
Yeah, sure. His litmus test for ideological purity didn't scream having a big ego at all.

because wanting affordable college and a health care system that would prevent thousands from dying of preventable diseases amounts to "ideological purity."
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« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2017, 11:21:12 PM »

90%. Even if Sanders will be there, he will give Clinton the chance to speak no matter how ugly she makes it. Sanders is not vindictive or an egoist about this.

As long as she doesn't descend to blatant personal attacks in 2020...I think Dems will be united. Atleast for the SC, which will be lost for generations. 2020 is possibly the biggest election in decades..
Yeah, sure. His litmus test for ideological purity didn't scream having a big ego at all.

because wanting affordable college and a health care system that would prevent thousands from dying of preventable diseases amounts to "ideological purity."
It was literally "agree with all of my positions or be primaried"
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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2017, 11:27:18 PM »

90%. Even if Sanders will be there, he will give Clinton the chance to speak no matter how ugly she makes it. Sanders is not vindictive or an egoist about this.

As long as she doesn't descend to blatant personal attacks in 2020...I think Dems will be united. Atleast for the SC, which will be lost for generations. 2020 is possibly the biggest election in decades..
Yeah, sure. His litmus test for ideological purity didn't scream having a big ego at all.

because wanting affordable college and a health care system that would prevent thousands from dying of preventable diseases amounts to "ideological purity."
It was literally "agree with all of my positions or be primaried"


How much does Neera Tanden pay you to troll here?
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« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2017, 11:28:36 PM »

90%. Even if Sanders will be there, he will give Clinton the chance to speak no matter how ugly she makes it. Sanders is not vindictive or an egoist about this.

As long as she doesn't descend to blatant personal attacks in 2020...I think Dems will be united. Atleast for the SC, which will be lost for generations. 2020 is possibly the biggest election in decades..
Yeah, sure. His litmus test for ideological purity didn't scream having a big ego at all.

because wanting affordable college and a health care system that would prevent thousands from dying of preventable diseases amounts to "ideological purity."
It was literally "agree with all of my positions or be primaried"


How much does Neera Tanden pay you to troll here?
Not agreeing with Bernie Sanders' """revolution""" = I'm being bankrolled by Neera Tanden

My God you're making ALEX JONES look sane by acting like this
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« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2017, 11:37:16 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2017, 11:42:54 PM »

Looks like every thread with the words "Hillary Clinton" in it is going to go the same way. Ugh.

Anyway, she probably will, especially if Trump is very unpopular in 2020, and Democrats want to push the idea of buyer's remorse.
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« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2017, 12:36:18 AM »

It was literally "agree with all of my positions or be primaried"

Has Bernie even supported a primary challenger aside from DWS?
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« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2017, 01:35:10 AM »

Of course she will speak and that's how it should be. She won the popular vote against both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump by millions of votes. She's the people's President.
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« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2017, 01:40:48 AM »

Bernie Sanders will not be the nominee. What he and his deranged stans want will not be a factor.

It's crazy how you hacks think that the movement is just going to go away even if Bernie or whatever progressive you decide to villify doesn't get the nomination. The Bernie coalition is basically the half of the Obama coalition that's under 25, it's the future.
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« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2017, 02:24:43 AM »

I am really tired of your asinine comments in every thread. I don't if CTR, the David Brock Super pac is still paying 1M $ for online trolls.

So, at your earlier comment about purity test & what not garbage @ my comment - I have no response. You can keep trolling. I really hope for all this trolling, that you are being compensated well.

Pointing out the fact that Bernie Sanders LOST the primaries by millions of votes is trolling now? Jeez I guess reality is trolling you.

Naah that has nothing to do with trolling. Even Bernie supporters including me has said that multiple times. You know you are a troll which all your ridiculous hateful irrelevant posts which has no relation to the topic.

I hope you are being compensated for that because you truly deserve recognition. You made a thread about HRC speaking in the 2020 Convention entirely about blasting Bernie & about the 2016 primary. Would not like to stretch this discussion.

Excuse me you've made 50,000 posts on excerpts from Hillary's book alone and you constantly attack moderate Democrats by promoting stupid Justice Democrats primarying red state Dems. I am not the one who is trolling, you are.

Why don't you create a Bernie Sanders hate group megathread so that all the clowns can vent there.

I think that is a better idea than destroying every god damn topic by making it a Bash Bernie thread or Hillary vs Bernie again. Most of the posts are not even relevant to the topic. And it was mildly amusing or intellectual, maybe you could argue.
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« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2017, 05:44:03 AM »

Bernie Sanders will not be the nominee. What he and his deranged stans want will not be a factor.

It's crazy how you hacks think that the movement is just going to go away even if Bernie or whatever progressive you decide to villify doesn't get the nomination. The Bernie coalition is basically the half of the Obama coalition that's under 25, it's the future.
Nevertheless, who and what Bernie Sanders wants on stage at the 2020 DNC is irrelevant. If Hillary Clinton wants a spot she will have it.
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« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2017, 08:21:01 AM »

If Hillary Clinton wants a spot she will have it.

The presumptive nominee pretty much has carte blanche to invite whoever they want to speak.  So if said person doesn't want HRC to speak, or at least not in primetime, they'll get their way.
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« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2017, 08:41:26 AM »

I wonder if Clinton will envy Warren for being the first female president.
I wonder also if everyone would believe Clinton's appeal to the audience to elect a woman to the top of the government is meant wholehearted.
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« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2017, 08:51:42 AM »

Why don't you create a Bernie Sanders hate group megathread so that all the clowns can vent there.

I think that is a better idea than destroying every god damn topic by making it a Bash Bernie thread or Hillary vs Bernie again. Most of the posts are not even relevant to the topic. And it was mildly amusing or intellectual, maybe you could argue.

Your entire existence on this forum is to bash the Democratic Party 24/7 for not groveling at the feet of an independent Socialist. Projection much?

Maybe you can argue when Senator Paula Jean Swearengin becomes a reality or when Sanders gets crushed in the GE in 2020

I don't care about Senator Paula or not. You know you are a nutcase when you talk about Bernie getting crushed in the GE. He is one of the most electable Democrat since FDR. And Parties are irrelevant. They are a vehicle for change & policies. The Democrats are the only reasonable party capable of change & hence they get criticism.

And I really don't want to have a discussion with you because are you a hack who doesn't even have the intellectual capability to stick to the topic & tries to bash Bernie in every thread. You don't discuss with Alex Jones type people.

Bernie Sanders will not be the nominee. What he and his deranged stans want will not be a factor.

It's crazy how you hacks think that the movement is just going to go away even if Bernie or whatever progressive you decide to villify doesn't get the nomination. The Bernie coalition is basically the half of the Obama coalition that's under 25, it's the future.
Nevertheless, who and what Bernie Sanders wants on stage at the 2020 DNC is irrelevant. If Hillary Clinton wants a spot she will have it.

Her approval is 30%. She is almost universally hated. She will get a spot out of pity & it is probably a bad association for the candidate & harmful for the GE but she will get it more as a lifetime achievement. She wouldn't be getting a prime spot, probably somewhere in the middle, in some irrelevant time.

Sanders is the most loved & popular politician & his personal approvals & his policy approvals with the Democratic base are at 80% or above. The Democratic Nominee will come begging to him because he has an entire generation & the future of the Democratic party in his hands.

You can chose to create an alternate reality & be surprised again in 2020.
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« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2017, 10:16:11 AM »

Hillary Clinton will speak and get a standing ovation when she does so. The people who would not vote for the 2020 nominee because HRC speaks for 10 minutes three to four months prior to the election was never going to vote Democrat. I can't wait to hear her full throated endorsement of the first female president if the nominee is Warren, Gillibrand, or Harris.

We shall see about the 2020 nominee "begging" Bernie for anything. I'm sure he and his platform will be significant and that's fine. I don't hate his policies and I just find his personality to be unpalatable.
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« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2017, 10:43:29 AM »

Hillary Clinton will speak and get a standing ovation when she does so. The people who would not vote for the 2020 nominee because HRC speaks for 10 minutes three to four months prior to the election was never going to vote Democrat. I can't wait to hear her full throated endorsement of the first female president if the nominee is Warren, Gillibrand, or Harris.

We shall see about the 2020 nominee "begging" Bernie for anything. I'm sure he and his platform will be significant and that's fine. I don't hate his policies and I just find his personality to be unpalatable.

No-one votes against a Dem nominee because HRC spoke for that person. That is childish. As a Dem nominee, she should ideally speak. However Clinton's approvals are at 30%, she is dull, inspiring & a mediocre speaker who generates no enthusiasm & has honesty/authenticity perception issues. If a Clinton will be a key speaker, that will be Bill Clinton & not Hillary. The prime time speakers be Bill Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Obama & the 2020 Nominee.

Sanders is a sitting Senator who will be there till 2024. He is an independent who doesn't have the bounds of party loyalty & can turn against anyone at any time. He has the crown jewel of all email lists, a generation devoted to him & multiple offshoots, organizations, strong fundraising & grassroots support from the Dem base, passionate people who run podcasts supporting him & so on. The Dem Nominee needs the "Berniecrats."
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« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2017, 10:44:49 AM »

Hillary Clinton will speak and get a standing ovation when she does so. The people who would not vote for the 2020 nominee because HRC speaks for 10 minutes three to four months prior to the election was never going to vote Democrat. I can't wait to hear her full throated endorsement of the first female president if the nominee is Warren, Gillibrand, or Harris.

We shall see about the 2020 nominee "begging" Bernie for anything. I'm sure he and his platform will be significant and that's fine. I don't hate his policies and I just find his personality to be unpalatable.

No-one votes against a Dem nominee because HRC spoke for that person. That is childish. As a Dem nominee, she should ideally speak. However Clinton's approvals are at 30%, she is dull, inspiring & a mediocre speaker who generates no enthusiasm & has honesty/authenticity perception issues. If a Clinton will be a key speaker, that will be Bill Clinton & not Hillary. The prime time speakers be Bill Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Obama & the 2020 Nominee.

Sanders is a sitting Senator who will be there till 2024. He is an independent who doesn't have the bounds of party loyalty & can turn against anyone at any time. He has the crown jewel of all email lists, a generation devoted to him & multiple offshoots, organizations, strong fundraising & grassroots support from the Dem base, passionate people who run podcasts supporting him & so on. The Dem Nominee needs the "Berniecrats."
We certainly shall see!
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« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2017, 10:48:22 AM »

I don't care about Senator Paula or not. You know you are a nutcase when you talk about Bernie getting crushed in the GE. He is one of the most electable Democrat since FDR. And Parties are irrelevant. They are a vehicle for change & policies. The Democrats are the only reasonable party capable of change & hence they get criticism.


Ahhhh yes, as FDR put it so eloquently in his 1932 run,




Soooooo electable Roll Eyes

He wrote an essay about women enjoying intercourse with multiple men, 50 years back, big deal. This is the reason why I say you make dumb statements. You have Trump, a racist & a Birther who wants to ban all Muslims, kill the children & family of terrorists, steal oil from Iraq, who is on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women & the size of his d*** in a GOP debate, bashed disabled people & says Kelly was menstruating & you come with some essay Sanders wrote 50 years back when he was 25 or 27 or 29 or whatever.

FDR cheated on his wife. JFK cheated on his wife. They are widely known Presidents who cheated while in office. And no1 gives a sh**t. LBJ was a total dic* who did multiple shady stuff. You have no clue as to what electability means.
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« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2017, 10:55:35 AM »

Listen, I know a lot of Berniecrats want to wipe her out of history, but if somehow Bernie did win the nomination in 2020 (he won't) and he actually omitted Clinton from the convention (he won't) he risks pissing off half of the Democratic Party and continuing the division causing Donald Freaking Trump to become a two-term president.
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« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2017, 12:31:56 PM »

It probably mostly depends on whether or not she wants a convention speaking role. Romney, McCain, W., etc. didn't speak at the 2016 GOP Convention not because they weren't invited to, but because they decided to not go. Usually, ex-nominees and ex-presidents are shoo-ins, with pretty much the sole exception of Richard Nixon.
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« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2017, 02:35:55 PM »

He wrote an essay about women enjoying intercourse with multiple men, 50 years back, big deal. This is the reason why I say you make dumb statements. You have Trump, a racist & a Birther who wants to ban all Muslims, kill the children & family of terrorists, steal oil from Iraq, who is on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women & the size of his d*** in a GOP debate, bashed disabled people & says Kelly was menstruating & you come with some essay Sanders wrote 50 years back when he was 25 or 27 or 29 or whatever.

FDR cheated on his wife. JFK cheated on his wife. They are widely known Presidents who cheated while in office. And no1 gives a sh**t. LBJ was a total dic* who did multiple shady stuff. You have no clue as to what electability means.

FDR and JFK never:

1. Praised breadlines in communist countries as "a good thing".
2. Openly bragged about how women enjoy being raped in their fantasies.
3. Openly praised Fidel Castro for his sick actions.
4. Said that "white people don't know what it's like to be poor" as a pathetic way to pander to minorities.
5. Failed to get single payer passed in their home state.
6. Dumped nuclear waste on a poor Hispanic community.
7. Voted against amber alert.
8. Voted for the crime bill.
9. Praised communist countries like Venezuela.
10. Said they didn't believe in charities.
11. Said they were "excited about the revolution in Cuba".
12. Were bums during most of their adult lives.
13. Lost black voters by 60+ points in their primaries.

Sanders has more dirt on him than any politician in this country. He would get annihilated in a GE if it weren't for the hyper-polarized electorate.

14. Had a wife under federal investigation for embezzling money from a college.
15. Touted an anti-war record but voted for a military mission in Yugoslavia which resulted in a staffer resigning and constituents being arrested at their office.
16. Attended an anti-American rally in Nicauguara while chants of "death to Yankees" filled the streets.
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