President Pence vs. Bernie Sanders

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Most conditions under which Pence would become President would make it nearly impossible for him to win. He would carry all of Trump's baggage, and some of Trump's supporters would likely stay home with him at the top of the ticket. Bernie would probably win with Obama's 2012 map + NE-02, and maybe AZ/NC, though those are tougher states for him, admittedly, and he might lose Iowa.

I don't see him holding NV, and FL is always unpredictable. I also don't know how OH would do. It would be interesting if there was a centrist independent bid. That could cost either party some states.

NV's competitiveness is overrated (it's at least a Lean D state, IMO), and Bernie would do better in rural NV and probably Washoe than Clinton, and would probably get enough of a margin in Clark to win the state. While FL is more of a question mark, I think his weakness there is somewhat overstated. In the end, most FL Democrats would probably come home for him, and it would come down to turnout, as it always does.

Plus NV has many poorly educated union workers that Sanders is a better fit for than Clinton.

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Clinton didn't lose solely due to the email server.... It's because she was perceived as establishment (although her scandals - some real and some fake - helped that perception) in an anti-establishment electorate. I'd say you're thinking it's 1995 still but since I know you're trolling, I won't.

Now on the substance, I think Pence could whip Bernie's ass in the debates and in a good climate for national Republicans, would probably win narrowly. But if the crisis hits, Bernie (or a similar Regan/FDR-esque figure) wins easily.

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Clinton didn't lose solely due to the email server.... It's because she was perceived as establishment (although her scandals - some real and some fake - helped that perception) in an anti-establishment electorate. I'd say you're thinking it's 1995 still but since I know you're trolling, I won't.

Now on the substance, I think Pence could whip Bernie's ass in the debates and in a good climate for national Republicans, would probably win narrowly. But if the crisis hits, Bernie (or a similar Regan/FDR-esque figure) wins easily.

Excuse me? The anti establishment Sanders lost by 3.5 million to Clinton and anti establishment Trump lost by 2.8 million to Clinton AND fell short of almost every single GOP Swing state senator AND the House GOP won the popular vote.

"Muh anti-establishment" narrative doesn't work when establishment republicans in swing states and in the House outperform Trump significantly and when Bernie lost the primaries decisively. Seriously why did all of these establishment republicans get respected AND outperformed Trump in the swing states?

Your tone makes it so obvious you are trolling but since other posters seem to have the view you're pretending to have I'll tear this apart. Clinton's PV is irrelevant. We do not elect presidents based on the popular vote, we elect them based on the electoral college. Given that Bernie got 47% of pledged delegates when he started out polling at 3%, and an orange clown buffoon won the GOP primaries, it was obviously an anti-establishment election. The only swing state senator to grossly overpreform was Rob Portman and that's because Strickland imploded and in most cases, the third party vote split towards the GOP.