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« Reply #325 on: February 19, 2018, 03:39:21 PM »

Is there any way Brown creates/leads another party into the election if he isn't allowed to run for the leadership?
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« Reply #326 on: February 20, 2018, 01:49:25 AM »

Is there any way Brown creates/leads another party into the election if he isn't allowed to run for the leadership?

Especially given how close we are to the election, I see that as impossible.
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« Reply #327 on: February 20, 2018, 10:52:03 AM »

Is there any way Brown creates/leads another party into the election if he isn't allowed to run for the leadership?

Especially given how close we are to the election, I see that as impossible.

The Trillium Party website shows no candidate yet for Barrie-Springwater-Oro-Medonte (or 95 other ridings).

My favourite Trillium Party policy: "There can be no computerized artificial intelligence used in the creation of legislation, regulation or policy. This is to ensure the ministry creating the legislation, regulation and policy are accountable for the document they are creating."  What the hell does that mean?
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« Reply #328 on: February 20, 2018, 11:38:56 AM »

Is there any way Brown creates/leads another party into the election if he isn't allowed to run for the leadership?

Especially given how close we are to the election, I see that as impossible.

The Trillium Party website shows no candidate yet for Barrie-Springwater-Oro-Medonte (or 95 other ridings).

My favourite Trillium Party policy: "There can be no computerized artificial intelligence used in the creation of legislation, regulation or policy. This is to ensure the ministry creating the legislation, regulation and policy are accountable for the document they are creating."  What the hell does that mean?

Doubt it happens but it would be hilarious if Brown and MacLaren were on the same slate.
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« Reply #329 on: February 20, 2018, 01:21:38 PM »

Is there any way Brown creates/leads another party into the election if he isn't allowed to run for the leadership?

Especially given how close we are to the election, I see that as impossible.

Reminds me of a NB 1987 situation where the fissures started to appear close to the election, but the party didn't formally split til a couple years later.
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« Reply #330 on: February 21, 2018, 04:31:30 AM »

Randy Hillier is going all-out on Brown, accusing him of financial irregularities in the investiture vote for a candidate in Toronto, for buying an house on the side of Simcoe Lake and some foreign trips.
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« Reply #331 on: February 21, 2018, 01:09:05 PM »

The Trillium Party may be a better fit for Brown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpU4-j_eNHk
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« Reply #332 on: February 21, 2018, 04:12:01 PM »

Brown was apparently scheduled to be interviewed on CFRB today but backed out in the last minute.  Guess he realized it's owned by Bell Media (which owns CTV).
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« Reply #333 on: February 26, 2018, 01:55:04 AM »

The National Post has reported the results of an internal poll done by Mainstreet for the Brown campaign:

Elliott: 28.85%
Brown: 28.29%
Ford: 22.24%
Mulroney: 14.15%
Allen: 6.46%
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« Reply #334 on: February 26, 2018, 10:15:06 AM »


Oh lord Brown is close to first.  None of the Ford or Mulroney supporters will back Brown right??
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« Reply #335 on: February 26, 2018, 10:32:19 AM »

Brown's dropping out and won't endorse anyone.
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« Reply #336 on: February 26, 2018, 11:28:30 AM »

Brown's dropping out and won't endorse anyone.
This has been a bizarre I’ve weeks for him to say the least.
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« Reply #337 on: February 26, 2018, 01:31:34 PM »

Brown's dropping out and won't endorse anyone.

Yay
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« Reply #338 on: February 26, 2018, 02:08:58 PM »

Brown's dropping out and won't endorse anyone.

Patrick Brown's Bizarre Adventure

To Be Continued
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« Reply #339 on: February 26, 2018, 03:12:06 PM »

Prediction: Christine Elliott wins the leadership on the 2nd ballot.
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« Reply #340 on: February 26, 2018, 05:02:34 PM »

Brownout is official.
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« Reply #341 on: February 26, 2018, 05:48:10 PM »

Eric Hoskins has resigned.  He will be heading a federal commission to explore Pharmacare.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/eric-hoskins-ontario-health-minister-resignation-1.4552697

Getting the coveted Liberal nomination in St. Paul's is a bigger deal than winning in the general election.
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« Reply #342 on: February 26, 2018, 05:58:50 PM »

There are now an awful lot of Ontario Liberal vacancies in the middle of Toronto. They still have no candidate in Toronto Centre. They still have no candidate in University-Rosedale. They now have no one in St. Paul's and in Spadina-Fort York they have low profile back bencher Han Dong.

I guess no one talented wants to be an opposition backbencher
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« Reply #343 on: February 26, 2018, 06:28:20 PM »

Am I the only one that thinks all this is creating a perfect storm for Horwath a la Notley in 2015?
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« Reply #344 on: February 26, 2018, 06:31:40 PM »

Am I the only one that thinks all this is creating a perfect storm for Horwath a la Notley in 2015?

Or Bob Rae in 1990.
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« Reply #345 on: February 26, 2018, 08:05:05 PM »

Am I the only one that thinks all this is creating a perfect storm for Horwath a la Notley in 2015?

Or Bob Rae in 1990.

Maybe. Let's see how the PC leadership plays out though.
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« Reply #346 on: February 27, 2018, 07:16:17 AM »

Am I the only one that thinks all this is creating a perfect storm for Horwath a la Notley in 2015?

Or Bob Rae in 1990.

Go back a few pages, I posted two articles from The Star and I think the Globe&Mail saying just this! shades of 90'.

The NDP has a highly valued/mildly well known candidate in University-Rosedale, Jessica Bell from the transit advocacy group TTCRiders, and has been in place for months; The Toronto Centre NDP race has three candidates from what I can see (two openly gay men, the other a female indigenous candidate), I believe the nomination race is in March. But haven't heard anything about Spadina-Fort York. You can see how they have prioritized them. Lost opportunity in SpFY i think with the weak Han Dong in a riding that could swing with NDP or Liberal.
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« Reply #347 on: February 27, 2018, 02:53:53 PM »

Prediction: Christine Elliott wins the leadership on the 2nd ballot.
Do you mean 3rd ballot? I can’t imagine Granic Allen’s supporters pulling her over the edge.
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« Reply #348 on: February 28, 2018, 10:47:47 AM »

Am I the only one that thinks all this is creating a perfect storm for Horwath a la Notley in 2015?

Or Bob Rae in 1990.

Go back a few pages, I posted two articles from The Star and I think the Globe&Mail saying just this! shades of 90'.

The NDP has a highly valued/mildly well known candidate in University-Rosedale, Jessica Bell from the transit advocacy group TTCRiders, and has been in place for months; The Toronto Centre NDP race has three candidates from what I can see (two openly gay men, the other a female indigenous candidate), I believe the nomination race is in March. But haven't heard anything about Spadina-Fort York. You can see how they have prioritized them. Lost opportunity in SpFY i think with the weak Han Dong in a riding that could swing with NDP or Liberal.

Another one:

http://albertapolitics.ca/2018/02/andrea-horwath-will-ontarios-next-premier-remember-heard-first-albertans/

From an Alberta perspective/comparison
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« Reply #349 on: February 28, 2018, 11:20:10 AM »

Am I the only one that thinks all this is creating a perfect storm for Horwath a la Notley in 2015?

Or Bob Rae in 1990.

Go back a few pages, I posted two articles from The Star and I think the Globe&Mail saying just this! shades of 90'.

The NDP has a highly valued/mildly well known candidate in University-Rosedale, Jessica Bell from the transit advocacy group TTCRiders, and has been in place for months; The Toronto Centre NDP race has three candidates from what I can see (two openly gay men, the other a female indigenous candidate), I believe the nomination race is in March. But haven't heard anything about Spadina-Fort York. You can see how they have prioritized them. Lost opportunity in SpFY i think with the weak Han Dong in a riding that could swing with NDP or Liberal.

Another one:

http://albertapolitics.ca/2018/02/andrea-horwath-will-ontarios-next-premier-remember-heard-first-albertans/

From an Alberta perspective/comparison

Main takeaway from this speculation is that campaigns matter. Let the Tories pick their leader, and the campaign start. If Horwath makes some noise, she could definitely win. OTOH this speculation often veers into parallelomania by ignoring factors that contradict the narrative. (E.g. This won't be a snap election like Alberta and the Tories have been out of power for 15 years, not 5 like in 1990)
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