October 2017 Federalist Party Convention - Partial Results

[windjammer]

Whoever is offering positions for votes, you need to stop and you know who you are. If you don't stop, I will leak said exchanges and I will motion for your expulsion. You know who you are and you need to stop.

Who is doing that?

Probably Louis XV, usually him behind all the scandalous intrigue and such.


At least that is what Frederick told me.

Well, I will be honest, and I'm saying that genuinely, I have never understood the high level of tolerance from federalists with this kind of this scrap.

Why simply not punishing him?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Whoever is offering positions for votes, you need to stop and you know who you are. If you don't stop, I will leak said exchanges and I will motion for your expulsion. You know who you are and you need to stop.

Who is doing that?

Probably Louis XV, usually him behind all the scandalous intrigue and such.


At least that is what Frederick told me.

Well, I will be honest, and I'm saying that genuinely, I have never understood the high level of tolerance from federalists with this kind of this scrap.

Why simply not punishing him?

You French and your public executions!

[Rjjr77]

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Signing in late, something about traffic when I'm really just hungover

[windjammer]

We all know who is behind the whole offering positions for votes, this should surprise no one.

Who?

[Bacon King]

Hi Poirot, if you need a true justification for emergency, the city of Jacksonville has requested that we clear out quickly as they are trying to recover from Hurricane Irma, thus we have agreed to speed things up on their behalf. As for why we didn't move the Convention, Jacksonville still wanted our money and our money that we paid for the convention will help the city of Jacksonville recover from the Hurricane, thanks for understanding and be sure to donate to the effort!

I am very concerned about this aberration from our party's schedule per our bylaws and this explanation is only making me more confused

Until just a couple of days ago, every member of our party was operating under the assumption that the October convention would, you know, be in October? This justification for the emergency does not make sense because why would we immediately decide to hold our convention weeks early, AFTER that city had already been hit by a hurricane? Do you have a source where the game moderator has mentioned the decisions of the Jacksonville local government on this issue, or even anything mentioned about hurricane Irma at all?

Why would we go to Jacksonville early, knowing it had been hit by a hurricane? If the city wanted our money, wouldn't they advise us to hold the convention at the time we are scheduled to hold it?

This seems like circular logic - we had to declare an emergency and move the convention forward because of the situation at our convention location that we have to deal with because we decided to move the convention forward?

I joined this party because I thought it stood for the rule of law, but this peculiar convention is causing me to worry I have made the wrong choice. There appears to be no actual emergency that would require the convention to be rushed and held so far in advance and I don't understand any sort of reasoning why this happened.

I feel that this is unfair to me as a new member, that I am now not allowed to participate in a convention that shouldn't be happening until two weeks after I joined? I wanted to run as a Federalist candidate for the legislature, and I think I could have campaigned well and delivered our party a new seat. Why have I been excluded and what "emergency" is denying me the ability to serve my party and country?

[ZuWo]

I for one am looking forward to seeing all the drama - be it real or fake - come to an end soon and helping our excellent President and Vice President win the next election!

[Mr. Reactionary]

Lol. Rando lefty Adam Griffin cheerleader conveniently joins a party immediately after a rule change, then proceeds to complain that said party is being unfair to him because of the rule change that predated his membership. Is there a reason you didn't register until (seemingly) the moment you found out you couldn't vote in the primary? Were you aware of the primary and just sitting around waiting for the last possible moment to register or something? That doesn't sound like someone with a sincere interest in the Federalist Party. I don't see how this change is particularly unfair to a poster who the party did not even know was interested in crossing over, due to that poster's deliberate decision to not register.

[Terry the Fat Shark]

Wow Baconking, Adam wouldn't be very happy if you ran for a seat as a Federalist, unless it was to like, you know, undermind us or something. All of that aside, the point of the October convention is to elect party leadership, determine new party rules, etc. so you can stick around for that if you feel the need, I am actually 99.9% certain we could've held a primary outside of the convention, considering I held a Southern Senate primary outside of the convention before, it's all very up to the discretion of the chair, who is, at the moment, North Carolina Yankee. I am the one who tracked Hurricane Irma in game with full permission from the GM, so yeah I'm aware, the options that were presented were to move the primary up and then hold the rules stuff in Boston,MA (which may also be hit by a TS), or postpone all of that, we are still in the process of deciding. Thanks for the fun logical mind games dear.


As for the whole vote buying thing, if I wanted to say who it was, I would've said it at the time, I am in hopes that they will STOP and that they decide to return to campaigning with actual standards.

[Bacon King]

Lol. Rando lefty Adam Griffin cheerleader conveniently joins a party immediately after a rule change, then proceeds to complain that said party is being unfair to him because of the rule change that predated his membership. Is there a reason you didn't register until (seemingly) the moment you found out you couldn't vote in the primary? Were you aware of the primary and just sitting around waiting for the last possible moment to register or something? That doesn't sound like someone with a sincere interest in the Federalist Party. I don't see how this change is particularly unfair to a poster who the party did not even know was interested in crossing over, due to that poster's deliberate decision to not register.

I don't want to air dirty laundry in public but in recent months Adam and I stopped seeing eye to eye and had a bit of a falling out. That's why, as you may have noticed, I almost stopped participating in Atlasia completely not too long ago.

Honestly I have joined the Federalists, in large part, because of the influence of several friends from #southernchat in IRC that I've become close with recently. I also greatly respect the Federalists's efforts at game reform to promote Atlasia and help it to thrive. I've invested years into this game and I'm tired of seeing "establishment" parties that stay in power, essentially, by finding a status quo that puts them in charge and then sucking the fun out of the game, keeping new people from joining because it upsets the apple cart.

I've invested a decade into this game, I want to see it live!

I've expressed interest in joining several times to dfwlibertylover and others, and in fact, late last night dfw directly urged me to join as soon as possible because he was worried future registrations might be restricted in some manner (I wasn't clear on the details). I decided to take the plunge and join, and here I am

I am interested in participating in both the convention and the primary because I'd like to take an active role in the new party that I'm excited to join. I've already been collaborating with several Federalists with regards to a potential lawsuit that I might file, so I'm not exactly all by myself. With regards to the primary, I am undecided because I very much like both candidates, I am leaning towards oakvale at the moment but honestly I want to wait until after the debate to make up my mind for sure.

I'll admit I jumped the gun, the circumstances didn't seem to add up and I assumed the worst. When I made that post I was concerned NCYankee had acted specifically to stop my participation but I suppose that was just paranoia. Him and I have a long and checkered history and I feared he didn't want me to join. Honestly I look up to the guy and I have ever since we were in the Senate together some eight years ago. A major appeal of joining the Federalist Party for me, in all honestly, is for us to finally be on the same side. I suppose honestly I'm just upset at myself for not registering sooner.

I am the one who tracked Hurricane Irma in game with full permission from the GM, so yeah I'm aware, the options that were presented were to move the primary up and then hold the rules stuff in Boston,MA (which may also be hit by a TS), or postpone all of that, we are still in the process of deciding. Thanks for the fun logical mind games dear.

Thank you for the info! I was unaware Irma was simulated in-game. I was only suspicious because your explanation confused me, any mind games I played were on myself. If you don't understand what I was trying to point out then I must have misinterpreted your post.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I have been hearing a lot of concerns expressed to me over the past several days about the recent surge of people into the Federalist Party. It is my desire to welcome them and encourage them to stay. That said, I don't think there is anything fair about people joining minutes before the vote, voting and then leaving. I think the Federalists deserve better than that. I am not here to make any judgement about anyone in particular or their reasoning or point fingers at one side or the other.

That being said while all those officially registered as Federalists in the registration thread, as of 12:00 AM EST, September 18th, will be eligible to vote in the Presidential primary and continue to sign in as has been occurring, anyone who registers as a Federalist after that time will be prohibited from voting in the Presidential Primary.

At this stage, we will be moving on to speeches by the candidates for President and Vice President, and by anyone who wishes to give speeches for either of the candidates. This will last through the 21st.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

And he was right and you should have taken his advice.


I didn't make any rules to target BK, I made a rule to prevent an influx of socialists and Laborites coming into the party to decide our party's nominee for us.

I have long made it my policy that the Federalist Party, is nobody's bitch. And I plan to keep it that way.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I made a decision before anyone announced based off the August election and the late rush to find candidates for House, and the impact that had on eventually costing us the election, that we needed to have all our Federal candidates, declared and nominated by Oct 1st, so as to be able to focus all our energies on the General Election. This only became doubly so once a primary started and the Labor one melted away because it meant that Truman had free ride of the general electorate for upwards of a month if we waited until October to start the convention. Does anyone really want Truman to have a months worth of free lunch?

I didn't think so.

Then it occurred to me that in July the Portland Convention selected Jacksonville as its location. A place just ravaged by storms. I contacted the authorities and asked for their best judgment between supporting recovery and the distraction of a convention and offered to minimize the demands on their resources and personnel. They agreed and hence this post:

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However, since then the authorities have changed their tune and want us to pack up as soon as possible. It had been my hope that with an earlier convention, we could have a successful convention where all manners are addressed and do speeches and so forth, stuff we often have to forgo at our conventions for lack of time. So in order to fullfill that, we may have to move to Boston the runner up to continue with business at hand.

Lastly on the manner of voting, several people expressed concerns about the run up in our numbers leading up to the primary, which I brushed off at the time. Some pushed for me to move the primary up even further and I resisted that as well. But finally I was informed from a "source" that Labor was planning to infiltrate the convention. In light of the previous advice it would have been incompetence of the highest order to ignore the risk regardless of how accurate I hold it (probably less than 50% chance of being accurate) and therefore I set the 18th as the cut off for registration as a Federalist to vote in the primary. I welcome people to continue to join and participate in the Party and I apologize for this inconvenience, but I as I said, it has been my policy that the Federalists not be anybody's bitch. Not Labor's, not anybody's.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Crap's getting tense here...

[Terry the Fat Shark]

I am now getting conflicting stories, so I will investigate. If it ends up that this was all a misunderstanding, it still would be less of a waste of time than Poirot's ramblings, so oh well I guess.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I am proud to be fhtagn’s running mate, because I am confident that she has the work ethic and talent to make our current apparatus of government a successful one. There have been issues with this system, and with those issues there are different ideas about what to do with it.

     In the short time I have been Vice President so far I have been sufficiently impressed by the dedication of fhtagn and her Cabinet that I knew I made the right choice in doing so. The trend towards government simulation has come to demand a great deal of work of those in charge. We’ve suffered from inactivity in key posts in the past, and I am running on this ticket because it stands for activity and competence in government.

     I believe that there is much good that exists within the GM and from Congress. Having an active GM opens avenues of discussion that otherwise would not be possible and that go well beyond the same well-trodden tracks of the political issues du jour. Having an active Congress allows for more intricate policy discussions that better balance the interests of the regions and of the populace at-large.

     When I started in Atlasia, there was a major debate over the role of the regions. Many people in powerful places wanted to reduce the role of the regions, if not abolish them altogether. I fought for years for regions, because I saw the potential they had to play an important role in Atlasian affairs, and I have been vindicated in such. All it took was tweaking the system to make things work. Perhaps Game Moderation needs to be tweaked as well, and that is a possibility that should be discussed. However, I am confident that the path forward does not lie through simply abandoning game mechanics because they require a little effort to implement successfully.

     We are running to be more than the typical empty suits. We are running to be the catalyst that taps into the potential that exists within the Republic of Atlasia and therein lead it to new heights. Join us, so that we can realize those heights and see the dawn of a new age for Atlasia.

[Poirot]

I am now getting conflicting stories, so I will investigate. If it ends up that this was all a misunderstanding, it still would be less of a waste of time than Poirot's ramblings, so oh well I guess.

Sometimes I decide to speak publicly when I disagree with some action, decision or opinion. The reaction from the ex-presidents has often be to belittle me. I'm told I don't understand, I don't pay attention etc. when it's clearly not the case. Since the post reset I have tried to be an engaged citizen following what happens in Nyman. The highest offices should come with scrutiny. I hope other citizens are not intimidated to voice concerns or questions. Citizens participation should be encouraged. I've had a very good relationship with past federalists leaders and they treated with respeact and as an ally but some now show me no respect.

[Terry the Fat Shark]

I am now getting conflicting stories, so I will investigate. If it ends up that this was all a misunderstanding, it still would be less of a waste of time than Poirot's ramblings, so oh well I guess.

Sometimes I decide to speak publicly when I disagree with some action, decision or opinion. The reaction from the ex-presidents has often be to belittle me. I'm told I don't understand, I don't pay attention etc. when it's clearly not the case. Since the post reset I have tried to be an engaged citizen following what happens in Nyman. The highest offices should come with scrutiny. I hope other citizens are not intimidated to voice concerns or questions. Citizens participation should be encouraged. I've had a very good relationship with past federalists leaders and they treated with respeact and as an ally but some now show me no respect.

I'm obviously salty because you didn't vote for me twice Poirot

[fhtagn]

     I am proud to be fhtagn’s running mate, because I am confident that she has the work ethic and talent to make our current apparatus of government a successful one. There have been issues with this system, and with those issues there are different ideas about what to do with it.

     In the short time I have been Vice President so far I have been sufficiently impressed by the dedication of fhtagn and her Cabinet that I knew I made the right choice in doing so. The trend towards government simulation has come to demand a great deal of work of those in charge. We’ve suffered from inactivity in key posts in the past, and I am running on this ticket because it stands for activity and competence in government.

     I believe that there is much good that exists within the GM and from Congress. Having an active GM opens avenues of discussion that otherwise would not be possible and that go well beyond the same well-trodden tracks of the political issues du jour. Having an active Congress allows for more intricate policy discussions that better balance the interests of the regions and of the populace at-large.

     When I started in Atlasia, there was a major debate over the role of the regions. Many people in powerful places wanted to reduce the role of the regions, if not abolish them altogether. I fought for years for regions, because I saw the potential they had to play an important role in Atlasian affairs, and I have been vindicated in such. All it took was tweaking the system to make things work. Perhaps Game Moderation needs to be tweaked as well, and that is a possibility that should be discussed. However, I am confident that the path forward does not lie through simply abandoning game mechanics because they require a little effort to implement successfully.

     We are running to be more than the typical empty suits. We are running to be the catalyst that taps into the potential that exists within the Republic of Atlasia and therein lead it to new heights. Join us, so that we can realize those heights and see the dawn of a new age for Atlasia.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am now getting conflicting stories, so I will investigate. If it ends up that this was all a misunderstanding, it still would be less of a waste of time than Poirot's ramblings, so oh well I guess.

Sometimes I decide to speak publicly when I disagree with some action, decision or opinion. The reaction from the ex-presidents has often be to belittle me. I'm told I don't understand, I don't pay attention etc. when it's clearly not the case. Since the post reset I have tried to be an engaged citizen following what happens in Nyman. The highest offices should come with scrutiny. I hope other citizens are not intimidated to voice concerns or questions. Citizens participation should be encouraged. I've had a very good relationship with past federalists leaders and they treated with respeact and as an ally but some now show me no respect.

I do respect you Poirot and I enjoyed working with you in 2015 on a number of issues including opposition to the replacement of At-Large seats with districts as recall you being vocally against that. I am also pretty sure I voted for you over myself in that At-Large election for Senate. I also respect your dedication to principles and institutions following strictly too the rules, but sometimes you there needs to be a level of practicality. Oakvale himself always you to attack me for being too legalistic and too in favor of complexity at the expense of the game. Yet you are far more rigid than I on such matters and yes I do respect that but there has to be reasonable limits. 

[Leinad]

Excellent speech, PiT!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Also I want to say marvelous words by the Vice President. He is definitely one of the most experienced hands and knows difficulties both keeping Congress afloat and serving an executive who deals with tough challenges, having been himself the Emperor of the IDS for a good number of years and facing all sorts of challenges.

There is no one more qualified than him to be Vice President, especially now that we have moved into an era where the period of inactive VP's are over and the expectation now is that VPs will have to perform to keep Congress functioning, as an integral part of that system. Previously, a VP would just sit idle, excluded by poorly constructed rules and organization between the two chambers slowly collapsed. Ever since March though, the rules have been changed and an active VP is no longer a desirable feature of a ticket, it is an indispensable necessity.

[Clark Kent]

x ClarkKent

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So glad to welcomed the esteemed former Speaker, Senator and NE LT Governor, Clark to the convention.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

To the Atlasian Federalist Party


After some testing and research  it has been determined by Atlasia CIA officials that Russian aligned group Free the People successfully hacked Federalist Party electronic voting machines and we're able to change the layout of the ballot. At this time no motive has been uncovered but after attempts to hack voting systems before the midterm election; it is recommended by the FBI that regions, the Federal government follow the lead of France and Germany to minimize hacking attempts and protect the integrity of the results. We will be in further contact with the President and Party chairperson when more details are made available.

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[fhtagn]

My friends and fellow Federalists! What a truly exciting time for the party! This weekend, we will be choosing who our party will put their faith in ensuring another win this October! I am here tonight to show you how I have always been here fighting for today's Atlasia, and how I am the clear choice to continue that fight as the Federalist Party nominee.

I may not be someone who can boast years of experience in Atlasia, and I may not have the longest list of positions I've held over those years, but what I can tell you is that I have always been here for all Atlasians, putting what is best for the people first. I am not someone who makes empty promises. I am not someone who is just an empty suit filling a seat until someone better comes along. I'm someone who has worked hard and taken on every challenge thrown my way, and I have no reason to stop now.

Since taking the oath of office for the Presidency, I have spent countless hours on ensuring that important tasks that we have been falling behind on are getting done. I've worked with my National Security Council to find a resolution to the crisis with China and North Korea that will not only ensure the safety of our people, but presents an amazing opportunity for economic advancement for our nation. I've worked towards setting up plans to finally establish and balance our budget, something that has not happened since 2014. In my time in Atlasia, I've kept my past promises to support clean energy policies and efforts to protect our precious natural resources, and do not plan to stop there. With your support, we can ensure that Atlasia continues the trend towards protecting the only planet we have to live on, pave the way for making us an energy-independent nation, and to not only catch up, but to set the standard for the rest of the world to follow.

With your support, we will not be weighed down by our past. While the past is certainly something we should learn from, we should not let it define who we are today. The Atlasia I see today is filled with bright minds and fresh ideas. The Atlasia I see today is filled with people who will stick to their values and defend them whenever challenged. The Atlasia I see today does not roll over and give up when something is too hard, and we do not apologize for who we are. We are a strong nation, a passionate nation, a nation we should all be proud of. Atlasia is already great, and we should never let anyone tell us any different.

This weekend, don't give into fear-mongering and unrealistic promises. Put your faith in someone who has actively been here, and shown you who they are and what they can accomplish. Help me continue the fight for not only today's Atlasia, but for Atlasia's future.