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Question: Who would you vote for?
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Independence
 
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Left Greens
 
#3
Pirate
 
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Progressive
 
#5
Reform
 
#6
Bright Future
 
#7
Social Democrats
 
#8
People's
 
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Total Voters: 89

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« on: September 16, 2017, 08:31:02 AM »
« edited: September 19, 2017, 06:53:28 AM by Çråbçæk »

The adventure of Icelandic politics continues on its wild ride. The government of Bjarni Benediktsson has proven short lived owing to a scandal involving BB'z father writing a recommendation of letter to a paedophile that the government may be aware of. Parties include (apologies for mangling names and leaving out accents):

Independence Party: the traditional party of Iceland's urban well-to-do, and a remarkably powerful one - something like fifteen percent of the electorate are paid members iirc and with a cosy relationship with Iceland's media proprietors. Was left highly exposed during the financial disaster, and paid a (brief) electoral price, before entering into a PP-led government in 2013, and regaining the PM spot under BB last year when that government fell due to Panama.

Left-Greens - a formation of these who rejected the consolidation of the left-leaning factions of the Althing into the Blair-aping SDA. Like many post-eurocommunist projects, a highly splintered group between sexed-up social democrats and true believers in Marxism. Joined the SDA led post-crisis coalition government, which while winning international plaudits for charging bankers with crimes, led to criticism amongst the party's memberbase, especially as the party's then leader acted as a fairly austere Minister of Finance.  Lost a lot of votes in 2013, but built them back at the eleventh hour before last election under popular leader Katrin Jacobsdittir.

Pirate - an outgrowth of the international Pirate movement, the Icelandic party confounded fellow Pirate Party branches by  being popular and not immediately collapsing under scrutiny. For a long period during the last government, was riding high in the polls under "Pirate Queen"  Brigitta Jonsdittir: something that rather unsettled the party itself, given that much of the cadre were opposed to even participating in government/making coalition deals with left or right, and instead acting as a sort of permanent parliamentary opposition).  Decided to make their election campaign solely focused on approving the crowdsourced leftist constitution from the SDA-lG era, which was not a great move (unless they wanted to scupper their chances). There numbers fell during the campaign, makingly to LG and the new rigjt-liberals Reform.

Progressive - the equivalent of Scandinavian Centre parties, being agrarian, rural and populist. In 2013, took a hilariously shameless approach centred around making "deals" that would somehow write off the huge amount of household debt held by Icelanders, something which they did not do and led to the government, under noted fat idiot SDG, being rather unpopular. Luckily for them, they had an excuse to oust him early due to his ensnarement in the Panama Papers, and replaced him with some guy. Note: as Iceland lack a proper right populist party, PP are quite willing to adopt the role of need be irt immigration etc.

Reform - liberal and europhillic split from Independence that appeared in time for the 2016 election. Given that Brexit has led to EU membership a nonstarter for Iceland (even more than it was already), has downplayed the issue lately, but acts as a less industry friendly (i.e. 'crony capitalist)  alternative to Independence, with its links to smelters, fishing quota multimillionaires etc. Has joined with the current Independence government, where they have mixed reviews.

Bright Future - ironically a party with a very murky future. Emerged from former joke turned popular municipal party Best Party, the venture into national politics initially was a disaster full of chancers who nearly ousted the original cadre of anarchic non-politicians in favour of becoming just another liberal party. They were beaten back by the eccentric looking Ottarr Proppe, who looks very much like your standard bearded Nordic. Also joined the conservative government, which has alienated their more left-leaning voters.

SDA - the great project that was supposed to unite the Icelandic left last election saw a disaster as steady competition from all corners - the popular LG's, the Pirates and the two liberal parties all taking bites out of the party, leaving it with a paltry three seats. For whatever reason, the SDA is obsessed with joining the EU, a passion not shared by the Icelandic population.

People's - a leftist, protectionist and populist party that was just under the threshold last time. Strong focus on disabled rights, and led by a blind woman.
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2017, 08:38:27 AM »

Current polls indicate that Independence are in the high 20's but their two minor coalition partners (especially Bright Future) may not pass the threshold. The Progressives and Pirates both are drawing level to their last Election results (10 percent and 14 percent respectively). lG have seen an upswing to the low twenties (briefly overtaking IP in February), while SDA and (most recently) People's have swing up to 10 percent.
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2017, 10:12:49 AM »

1. Reform
2. Bright Future
3. SDA
4. Independence
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2017, 01:18:17 PM »

I support Bright Future only because their leader looks like this:

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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2017, 01:20:15 PM »

If I'm being honest, I'm hoping for some combination of Pirates, Left Greens and Social Democrats in the next government.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2017, 03:35:28 PM »

According to the August 30 poll by Gallup, the results are...

26.3% | Independence Party (Center-Right)
19.5% | Left-Green Movement (Left-wing)
13.1% | Pirate Party (Syncretic)
10.8% | Progressive Party (Center-Right)
10.6% | People's Party (Left-wing)
09.7% | Social Democratic Alliance (Center-Left)
04.8% | Reform Party (Center)
02.8% | Bright Future (Center)
02.4% | Others
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2017, 05:17:25 PM »

People's - a leftist, protectionist and populist party that was just under the threshold last time. Strong focus on disabled rights, and led by a blind woman.

Could you elaborate a little bit about their focus on disabled rights?

Iceland has been making the news in Evangelical circles due to their eliminating Downs Syndrome via abortion, so I'm intrigued by this new party.
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2017, 05:47:23 PM »

Looking at the polls now looks like less stability.  Could we have a repeat of the Netherlands which had an election on March 15, 2017 and still doesn't yet have a government in place?
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2017, 08:44:06 AM »

Pirate leader Brigitta Jonsdittir will not stand, passing her mantle to her deep enemy Helgi Hrafn Gunnarsson, which is in pratcice a shift right (as in Brigitta was identifiably a leftist, while Helgi is more associated with the "neither left nor right, just anti-establishment" approach of Piratism).

People's - a leftist, protectionist and populist party that was just under the threshold last time. Strong focus on disabled rights, and led by a blind woman.

Could you elaborate a little bit about their focus on disabled rights?

Iceland has been making the news in Evangelical circles due to their eliminating Downs Syndrome via abortion, so I'm intrigued by this new party.

sorry, I'm not sure they've commented on that case (at least I can't find anything with Google Translate). But they are relatively unorthodox as a left0wing party, so who knows?

Looking at the polls now looks like less stability.  Could we have a repeat of the Netherlands which had an election on March 15, 2017 and still doesn't yet have a government in place?

Probably not - ICeland doesn't have a PVV, so all parties could realistically enter a government. Some have conditions, like the Pirates really want the constitutional reform completed, but it's fair game elsewhere.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2017, 07:03:02 AM »

Election will be on the 28th October.

First poll since the government fell is as follows (rounded to nearest whole number, because decimals)

IP 23
Left Greens 23
Pirates 14
People's 11
Progressive 10
Bright Future 7
Reform 5
Social Dems 5

That's a fall for IP, a rise for the liberal parties (this election may save them as less partisan IP voters head off away from the scandal plagued Bjarni) and a very odd, presumably anomalous collapse for SDA to threshold level.
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2017, 05:44:32 PM »

Goes Pirates
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2017, 07:49:11 PM »

The most recent poll shows the Left-Green movement has jumped into a seven point lead.  Whether this is a trend or a blip tough to know, I guess we will need to wait for others to come out with numbers to confirm one way or another.


D 23

V 30

P 10

B 11

C 6

A 3

S 8

F 9

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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2017, 08:57:28 PM »

People's Party is left-wing? from what i read its a right-populist party critical of immigration.
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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2017, 04:00:33 AM »

People's Party is left-wing? from what i read its a right-populist party critical of immigration.

Their welfare policies are very leftist and eradicating poverty is their core goal, but they have at times criticized that taking in too many refugees could harm welfare for the disabled and elderly.

The Reykjavík Grapevine writes that a well-known xenophobe has recently joined them.

https://grapevine.is/mag/articles/2017/09/22/dawn-of-the-populists

Professor in political science Eirikur Bergman recently called them "a radical Socialist party" and he is the author of "Nordic Nationalism and Right-Wing Populist Politics: Imperial Relationships and National Sentiments" so I suppose he would know if they were right wing populists. Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2017, 04:15:32 AM »

"Former Prime Minister and Chairman of the Progressive Party Sigmundur Davið Gunnlaugsson announced in a letter on his website he will be leaving the party to form a new one. The letter, released yesterday, is a lengthy one which traces his career in politics from when he was elected chairman of the Progressive Party in 2009, through forming a government, and his resignation following the Panama Papers scandal in 2016. Sigmundur claims that throughout his time as chairman, six attempts were made to oust him from the party. He states that he hopes to form a new party with people willing to work on the same grounds "as we sought to do from 2009 to 2016"."

http://icelandreview.com/news/2017/09/25/former-prime-minister-leaves-party-form-new-one
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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2017, 01:39:46 PM »

Much of the right of PP have defected along with SDG to his new Centre Party.

As for People's, a lot of populist right parties are (imo) erroneously described as having a leftist economic agenda, but People's fits the bill more than, say, FN or AfD.
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2017, 09:24:46 PM »

People's Party is left-wing? from what i read its a right-populist party critical of immigration.

Their welfare policies are very leftist and eradicating poverty is their core goal, but they have at times criticized that taking in too many refugees could harm welfare for the disabled and elderly.

The Reykjavík Grapevine writes that a well-known xenophobe has recently joined them.

https://grapevine.is/mag/articles/2017/09/22/dawn-of-the-populists

Professor in political science Eirikur Bergman recently called them "a radical Socialist party" and he is the author of "Nordic Nationalism and Right-Wing Populist Politics: Imperial Relationships and National Sentiments" so I suppose he would know if they were right wing populists. Smiley

Thanks. That's the site i originally had read from.

Seems Iceland lacks a right-wing populist party like most of Europe. Even though i guess the Progressive Party has alot of voters that would probably vote for a DPP type party
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2017, 12:54:22 AM »

Seems Iceland lacks a right-wing populist party like most of Europe. Even though i guess the Progressive Party has alot of voters that would probably vote for a DPP type party

The Icelandic National Front would be the closest thing to parties like the FN, AfD, PVV, etc. Although they only received .16% of the vote in 2016.
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2017, 05:27:17 PM »

Another poll shows Left-Green Movement ahead but only by 1.2 points as opposed to 7 over the Independence Party.  The one prediction I will make is that Iceland will not have a government before the new year as it looks like trying to form a coalition will be chaos.
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2017, 11:15:14 PM »

Social Democrats.
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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2017, 06:42:37 AM »

Shock poll here.

LG 28.6 (20)
Pirates 11.4 (8 )
SDA 10.5 (7)

IP 22.3 (15)
PP 5.5 (3)

Centre Party 8.9 (6)

People's Party 5.8 (4)

Below threshold:

Viðreisn 3.0
BF 2.6
Others 1.4

Thta would be a prettty safe LG-Pirate-SDA government, unless the Pirate's relative turn ti the right means they refuse to work in a leftist government,

The success of SDG really baffles me. I mean its obvious what niche he's exploiting; but do any people find SDG an appealling figure?
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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2017, 04:32:35 AM »



A - BF
B - progress
C - reform
D - IP
F - people's
P - pirates
M - centre (SDG)
S - SDA
V- Left Greens

Pirates starting to fall, IP has a small hit cause Bjarni Ben was involved in a scandal involving Glitnir (one of Iceland's blown up banks), but they have a hard floor so won't be felt too much damage. Chances of a right wing government looking improbable with these numbers.

Meanwhile SDA have been having a good election, nabbing Jon Gnarr, popular former Mayor of Reykjavik and adopting a cheerful leftist platform.
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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2017, 01:32:38 PM »

Wait, they voted no confidence in him because of something his father did? That seems a bit unfair...
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« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2017, 02:16:15 PM »

Wait, they voted no confidence in him because of something his father did? That seems a bit unfair...

And then tried to hide what his father did.
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« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2017, 08:45:24 PM »

It is quite amazing to me that we might see the Progressive Party, which has been around since 1919, suffer its worst result in history due to the split with Gunnlaugsson. The best it can do is barely cling to a couple of seats. But there's also a chance it could be wiped from Parliament for the first time since the party's inception.
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