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« Reply #475 on: October 22, 2017, 05:14:26 AM »
« edited: October 22, 2017, 05:17:35 AM by jaichind »

4PM chart on turnout relative to 2014.  Purple is increase on early voting (although missing the last day of early voting data.)  Green is decrease (usually) for in day voting.



With net turnout at
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« Reply #476 on: October 22, 2017, 05:30:49 AM »

Another rule of Japanese elections is "LDP rebels usually never hurts LDP and in fact usually hurts opposition."  There are 12 seats where there is a serious LDP rebel or 2 LDP candidates are running.  In all 12 it seems either the LDP candidate or the LDP rebel will win, and in many cases with the two LDP candidates in the top two positions.
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« Reply #477 on: October 22, 2017, 05:31:47 AM »

Would JRP vote for a revision of the Constitution?
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« Reply #478 on: October 22, 2017, 05:32:43 AM »

almost certainly yes.
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« Reply #479 on: October 22, 2017, 05:33:31 AM »

Updated turnout chart

           2017    2014      2012
11:00  12.24     11.08 14.03
14:00  21.83     22.66 27.40
16:00  26.31     29.11 34.87
18:00  29.99     34.98 41.77
19:30             37.72 45.42
20:00               40.01   47.82
Early   20.01     12.65   11.50
Final               52.66 59.32

Turnout at 50% right now.  Looks like total turnout will be around 53%-53.5%, slightly above 2014.

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http://www.soumu.go.jp/senkyo/48sansokuhou/index.html
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« Reply #480 on: October 22, 2017, 05:42:16 AM »
« Edited: October 22, 2017, 05:47:42 AM by jaichind »


Yes.  Not necessary KP though.  It will depend on the exact nature of the change.
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« Reply #481 on: October 22, 2017, 05:44:22 AM »

In day voting numbers at 6pm by prefecture when compared to 2014.  Most of the higher drop offs are in non-competitive prefectures or Southern prefectures which are hit by hurricane harder than the North.



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« Reply #482 on: October 22, 2017, 05:50:59 AM »
« Edited: October 22, 2017, 05:52:32 AM by PM Ardern »

Just asking, has the stream started yet?
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« Reply #483 on: October 22, 2017, 05:53:20 AM »

Just asking, has the stream started yet?

Not working for me yet.  But I suspect will start any min.
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« Reply #484 on: October 22, 2017, 05:55:54 AM »

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/live/

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« Reply #485 on: October 22, 2017, 05:59:47 AM »

That's... rather low for in day voting, 29.99
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« Reply #486 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:16 AM »

LDP 253 - 300
HP   38-59
CDP  44-67

LDP-KP  281-336
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« Reply #487 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:54 AM »

Wow, they can fill in seats extremely quickly, already down to 174 remaining.
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« Reply #488 on: October 22, 2017, 06:02:27 AM »

Wow, JCP got screwed.
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« Reply #489 on: October 22, 2017, 06:03:10 AM »

Revisionist have a 2/3 majority accoring to the exit poll.
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« Reply #490 on: October 22, 2017, 06:03:56 AM »

Wow, they can fill in seats extremely quickly, already down to 174 remaining.

more likely is that those are the safe seats without any real opposition to talk about.
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« Reply #491 on: October 22, 2017, 06:04:12 AM »


Looks like a lot of their votes went to CDP
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« Reply #492 on: October 22, 2017, 06:08:50 AM »

So far on NHK it is

LDP  183
KP     25
JRP     4
HP    29
CDP  32
SDP    1
JCP     7
Ind   16

Asahi it is

LDP          199
KP              23
JRP              5
HP             32
CDP           32
SDP             1
JCP              7
Ind(LDP)      1
Ind(OPPN)  14
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« Reply #493 on: October 22, 2017, 06:10:22 AM »

So far on NHK it is

LDP  183
KP     25
JRP     4
HP    29
CDP  32
SDP    1
JCP     7
Ind   16

Asahi it is

LDP          199
KP              23
JRP              5
HP             32
CDP           32
SDP             1
JCP              7
Ind(LDP)      1
Ind(OPPN)  14


Depends upon what they think is safe/competitive...
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« Reply #494 on: October 22, 2017, 06:10:53 AM »

HP can get screwed, vote splitting bastards.
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« Reply #495 on: October 22, 2017, 06:14:13 AM »

HP can get screwed, vote splitting bastards.

It seems so.  But looking at the early calls my guess is that unless LDP-KP over-performs on the PR section it is unlikely LDP-KP gets to 310 for 2/3 majority.
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« Reply #496 on: October 22, 2017, 06:15:36 AM »
« Edited: October 22, 2017, 06:18:31 AM by PM Ardern »

HP can get screwed, vote splitting bastards.

It seems so.  But looking at the early calls my guess is that unless LDP-KP over-performs on the PR section it is unlikely LDP-KP gets to 310 for 2/3 majority
Isshin might get them over it, meaning they could revise the constitution...
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« Reply #497 on: October 22, 2017, 06:18:30 AM »

HP can get screwed, vote splitting bastards.

It seems so.  But looking at the early calls my guess is that unless LDP-KP over-performs on the PR section it is unlikely LDP-KP gets to 310 for 2/3 majority
Isshin would get them over it, meaning they could revise the constitution...

Of course but the 2/3 majority is for LDP-KP is more of a mental benchmark on if Abe won his gamble.  Right now at best he is breaking even.  Of course he will claim he will lose more next year if the election is held then.
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« Reply #498 on: October 22, 2017, 06:19:50 AM »

Opposition doing well so far in 愛知(Aichi).  No large scale vote splitting there. 
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« Reply #499 on: October 22, 2017, 06:20:59 AM »

Looks like a CDP surge in Tokyo PR.  Might be enough with along with JCP support to win a few FPTP seats there. 
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