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« on: September 18, 2017, 04:30:26 PM »

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/351189-clinton-wont--out-questioning-legitimacy-of-election
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2017, 04:59:24 PM »

It's just gonna sound like sour grapes at this point.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2017, 05:56:06 PM »

Gore knew better than this...
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2017, 06:09:08 PM »

From the article

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It's a lot less provocative than the OP's thread title is trying to suggest. Trump has done more to challenge the election result with his voter fraud commission and he actually won the election.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2017, 06:31:26 PM »


Gore actually had the election stolen from him.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2017, 06:39:19 PM »

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It's a lot less provocative than the OP's thread title is trying to suggest. Trump has done more to challenge the election result with his voter fraud commission and he actually won the election.
I'm not trying to 'suggest' anything other then sharing an article relevant to the 2016 election. I don't appreciate your tone/implication.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2017, 06:42:47 PM »

Hillary went from not being Trump to being Trump.I'm sure trump would be doing the same had he lost. I understand it's difficult to get over losing a election you were expected to win. Hillary should accept the results and move on. She should show she has more class.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2017, 07:22:59 PM »

Serious question

Is there even any sort of legal mechanism that would allow a former candidate to contest the legitimacy of the election after the inauguration?
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2017, 07:46:53 PM »


Are you sure?

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/345443-gore-i-think-i-carried-florida
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2017, 08:15:53 PM »

Oh for the love of God. This is about a foreign entity colluding with a candidate to steal this election. Of course Hillary should challenge the election results if the evidence becomes concrete. Stop calling her crazy, she has every right do so if Mueller cracks this wide open.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2017, 08:30:57 PM »

Oh for the love of God. This is about a foreign entity colluding with a candidate to steal this election. Of course Hillary should challenge the election results if the evidence becomes concrete. Stop calling her crazy, she has every right do so if Mueller cracks this wide open.

Lol. Desperate much?

Democrats were pro Russia in 2012.

You are behaving the same way the Republicans behaved when Trump beat them.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2017, 08:46:52 PM »

Clinton had the election stolen from her too.

Really, in the past 7 elections, Republicans won 3 of them, and only 1 of the Republican wins was legitimate (2004).
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2017, 09:11:06 PM »

Oh for the love of God. This is about a foreign entity colluding with a candidate to steal this election. Of course Hillary should challenge the election results if the evidence becomes concrete. Stop calling her crazy, she has every right do so if Mueller cracks this wide open.

To be fair, Carter refused to make similar allegations against Reagan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K32Mmk7AEZ8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise_conspiracy_theory
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2017, 09:14:34 PM »

Clinton had the election stolen from her too.

Really, in the past 7 elections, Republicans won 3 of them, and only 1 of the Republican wins was legitimate (2004).

What do you mean by this?
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2017, 09:19:54 PM »

Clinton had the election stolen from her too.

Really, in the past 7 elections, Republicans won 3 of them, and only 1 of the Republican wins was legitimate (2004).

What do you mean by this?

Any election where the 'winning' candidate received less votes than an opponent is by definition not a legitimate election.
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2017, 09:35:58 PM »

Clinton had the election stolen from her too.

Really, in the past 7 elections, Republicans won 3 of them, and only 1 of the Republican wins was legitimate (2004).

What do you mean by this?

Any election where the 'winning' candidate received less votes than an opponent is by definition not a legitimate election.

An election is legitimate based on how the Constitution deems it.
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2017, 09:51:39 PM »

Clinton had the election stolen from her too.

Really, in the past 7 elections, Republicans won 3 of them, and only 1 of the Republican wins was legitimate (2004).

What do you mean by this?

Any election where the 'winning' candidate received less votes than an opponent is by definition not a legitimate election.

What do you think of  the Citizens United decision?
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2017, 09:52:41 PM »

An election is legitimate based on how the Constitution deems it.

I mean at least we get to choose our President. In other countries like the UK, Canada, or Australia it's the party that chooses their leader. It used to be that way in the USA too (state legislators selecting the Electors) so we should feel lucky to vote for the President anyway.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2017, 10:49:27 PM »

An election is legitimate based on how the Constitution deems it.

I mean at least we get to choose our President. In other countries like the UK, Canada, or Australia it's the party that chooses their leader. It used to be that way in the USA too (state legislators selecting the Electors) so we should feel lucky to vote for the President anyway.

Also, the winner can still lose the popular vote here as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_federal_election,_1979
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2017, 10:56:57 PM »

Shut up Hillary! Literally everyone on all sides and all 3d dimensions just want to shut the hell up! Almost everyone is sick of you, just stay in the woods and move on! Literally, you are showing traits that Trump has such as narcism and lack of self responsibility, and now imitating his seemingly imminent questioning of the results when he was supposed to lose, and you mocked him for all that! Now we know that y'all are cut from the same cloth.
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2017, 10:58:50 PM »

Oh for the love of God. This is about a foreign entity colluding with a candidate to steal this election. Of course Hillary should challenge the election results if the evidence becomes concrete. Stop calling her crazy, she has every right do so if Mueller cracks this wide open.

To be fair, Carter refused to make similar allegations against Reagan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K32Mmk7AEZ8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise_conspiracy_theory

He did carry Florida. There's a difference.
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2017, 10:59:21 PM »


To be fair, he probably did. 500 votes is a very contestable point. Much moreso than 80,000 nearly evenly distributed across three states in an under-campaigned region.
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2017, 11:02:43 PM »

Shut up Hillary! Literally everyone on all sides and all 3d dimensions just want to shut the hell up! Almost everyone is sick of you, just stay in the woods and move on! Literally, you are showing traits that Trump has such as narcism and lack of self responsibility, and now imitating his seemingly imminent questioning of the results when he was supposed to lose, and you mocked him for all that! Now we know that y'all are cut from the same cloth.

Actually I want her to stick around:
https://medium.com/@Shakestweetz/why-i-will-never-stop-being-glad-that-hillary-clinton-refuses-to-go-away-2d460a8f3ff1
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2017, 11:08:18 PM »

Shut up Hillary! Literally everyone on all sides and all 3d dimensions just want to shut the hell up! Almost everyone is sick of you, just stay in the woods and move on! Literally, you are showing traits that Trump has such as narcism and lack of self responsibility, and now imitating his seemingly imminent questioning of the results when he was supposed to lose, and you mocked him for all that! Now we know that y'all are cut from the same cloth.

Actually I want her to stick around:
https://medium.com/@Shakestweetz/why-i-will-never-stop-being-glad-that-hillary-clinton-refuses-to-go-away-2d460a8f3ff1
So your 30% of the country. Congrats?
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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2017, 11:09:08 PM »

An election is legitimate based on how the Constitution deems it.

I mean at least we get to choose our President. In other countries like the UK, Canada, or Australia it's the party that chooses their leader. It used to be that way in the USA too (state legislators selecting the Electors) so we should feel lucky to vote for the President anyway.

Also, the winner can still lose the popular vote here as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_federal_election,_1979

LMAO! That's just beautiful.

I always LOL when foreigners make fun of the electoral college system. That system fits our country PERFECTLY.

For example, right now California is trying to keep Trump off the ballot in 2020. Could you imagine if somehow that succeeded? There'd be no way for Trump to win the election if we did it by popular vote in 2020, but he could still win the electoral college.

Plus, Hillary had so much help there's no excuse for her:

- She had Obama's GOTV operation and data program
- She had foreign countries trying to help her
- She had a billion Super PACs and a billion dollar campaign
- She had the entire media and political Establishment backing her
- Hell, REPUBLICANS were trying to help her

And she STILL lost!!!!! LMAO!!!!!
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