The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread, Part 2

[Mr. Morden]

Yet another dispatch from last weekend's Polk County Steak Fry, with yet more presidential non-denials....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/hello-iowa-the-2020-race-is-three-years-away-but-democrats-are-itching-to-start-it-now/2017/10/08/4479783a-a79a-11e7-92d1-58c702d2d975_story.html

Cheri Bustos:

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and Tim Ryan:

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[Rookie Yinzer]

And who needs Libya, when he voted for the war in Iraq.

Nobody is going to care about that in 2020. 

Iraq is Vietnam re-incarnated. As long as Biden will be alive, his vote will haunt if he decides to run for Presidency. Anyone who voted for the war in Iraq will have a big disadvantage 2020, Hillary got hammered for that.

Besides as long the Middle East is a problem with terrorists groups n ISIS, Iraq War will be there. The war also killed many Americans & created trillions of $ of Debt. How do you recover from that kind of a blunder?

She did in 2008. I don't remember that coming up in 2016 but time will tell. I am starting to think Biden might not be built for the spotlight of being a frontrunner candidate.

[UWS]

And who needs Libya, when he voted for the war in Iraq.

Nobody is going to care about that in 2020. 

Iraq is Vietnam re-incarnated. As long as Biden will be alive, his vote will haunt if he decides to run for Presidency. Anyone who voted for the war in Iraq will have a big disadvantage 2020, Hillary got hammered for that.

Besides as long the Middle East is a problem with terrorists groups n ISIS, Iraq War will be there. The war also killed many Americans & created trillions of $ of Debt. How do you recover from that kind of a blunder?

She did in 2008. I don't remember that coming up in 2016 but time will tell. I am starting to think Biden might not be built for the spotlight of being a frontrunner candidate.

In addition, Trump has himself supported the invasion of Iraq during an interview in 2002 so I don't think Biden's record on the Iraq War will be a counterbalance favoring Trump.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Btw, Kamala Harris is hitting the ground in swing states for senate colleagues this month.

[Mr. Morden]

Howard Schultz says "I have no plans to run for office", which isn't really a Shermanesque denial:

http://www.bnn.ca/starbucks-schultz-says-no-plans-to-run-for-president-launches-series-on-amazon-1.880151

[GlobeSoc]

Holy sh*t the democratic field is going to have like 50 candidates in it.

[Mr. Morden]

Murphy says “I’ll rule it out for you” when asked about running for prez in 2020.  Though when asked for the third time he just says “I’m running for reelection” so read into that what you will:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-sen-chris-murphy-rules-out-2020-presidential-bid/

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Meanwhile, Garcetti reiterates that he’s not going to make any kind of pledge to serve his full term as mayor, but rather than talking about a presidential run, he notes that running for governor is a possibility:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-los-angeles-mayor-eric-garcetti-plays-1507669630-htmlstory.html

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[America Needs R'hllor]

Murphy says “I’ll rule it out for you” when asked about running for prez in 2020.  Though when asked for the third time he just says “I’m running for reelection” so read into that what you will:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-sen-chris-murphy-rules-out-2020-presidential-bid/

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This is not Shermanesque, but it's coming pretty close.

[Mr. Morden]

Politico has a lengthy story on Bullock, and here's the part where he's asked about 2020.  (He says "It's pretty dang early", rather than try to offer any kind of denial.)

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/11/steve-bullock-profile-montana-governor-interview-2020-candidate-215695

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[henster]

Murphy says “I’ll rule it out for you” when asked about running for prez in 2020.  Though when asked for the third time he just says “I’m running for reelection” so read into that what you will:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-sen-chris-murphy-rules-out-2020-presidential-bid/

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This is not Shermanesque, but it's coming pretty close.

I like Murphy he is a pretty savvy pol, but his gun control politics is just not going to play well in the Heartland. And I think he understands that.

[#gravelgang #lessiglad]

Murphy says “I’ll rule it out for you” when asked about running for prez in 2020.  Though when asked for the third time he just says “I’m running for reelection” so read into that what you will:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-sen-chris-murphy-rules-out-2020-presidential-bid/

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This is not Shermanesque, but it's coming pretty close.

I like Murphy he is a pretty savvy pol, but his gun control politics is just not going to play well in the Heartland. And I think he understands that.

Same. But to play devil's advocate, it may play well in the increasingly blue suburbs. In my experience, even R voters in the suburbs aren't single issue voters on gun control.

[Mr. Morden]

I would note that even in quoted text above, when Murphy is asked one final time about 2020, he switches from "I'll rule it out for you" to an "I'm running for reelection" statement, which sounds more like a dodge.  In this latest interview, he's back to a full on dodge:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-sen-chris-murphy-deflects-questions-2020-presidential/story?id=50422720

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[American2020]

Biden in South Carolina

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/12/politics/joe-biden-politics-2020/index.html

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Ann Coulter, while speaking at an event in Florida, predicts that the Democratic nominee will be Kamala Harris.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ann-coulter-if-kamala-harris-runs-in-2020-she-will-be-the-democratic-nominee/article/2637383

[NewYorkExpress]

Ann Coulter, while speaking at an event in Florida, predicts that the Democratic nominee will be Kamala Harris.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ann-coulter-if-kamala-harris-runs-in-2020-she-will-be-the-democratic-nominee/article/2637383

For once Ann Coulter may actually know what she's talking about...she only really has to beat Warren, Klobuchar, Gillibrand and one Cuomo/Booker/Brown to be the nominee (even if Sanders runs, it's unlikely America will nominate an open socialist this time either...he'd still lose to Trump, and he'd definitely lose to Pence, who I have a sinking feeling will be the nominee).

[Mr. Morden]

More Mark Cuban:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/355286-mark-cuban-floats-presidential-run-as-an-independent

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[Mr. Morden]

Here’s this week’s #2020Vision column:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/13/politics/2020-vision-elizabeth-warren-fundraising-california-senate-cory-booker-kirsten-gillibrand/index.html

As usual, most of the content there has already been covered in this thread.  Though they do link to the Gillibrand story in Vogue, which I just posted a thread on.  Here’s the tea leaves portion of that story:

https://www.vogue.com/article/senator-kirsten-gillibrand-trump-feminism-vogue-november-issue-2017

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They also link to this story on Garcetti:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-on-politics-column-20171012-story.html

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[#gravelgang #lessiglad]

Slate has an article on Moulton.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/10/who-is-seth-moulton-for.html

[Mr. Morden]

Sunday morning talk show watch:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEWS_SHOWS?SITE=AP

This Sunday, John Kasich will be on Meet the Press, while Chris Murphy will be on Fox News Sunday (maybe he'll be asked about 2020 yet again).

[Shadows]

The controversy over Bernie Sanders’s speech at the Women’s Convention, explained


The organizers of the Women’s Convention — an outgrowth of the Women’s March that drew millions of participants around the globe in January — sparked controversy on Thursday when they announced that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) would be the conference’s opening-night speaker. “This event is literally called the ‘Women’s Convention,’” Lily Herman wrote at Refinery29, “so it’d be nice to see, you know, women in the spotlight.” MSNBC host Joy-Ann Reid and many others expressed similar sentiments, as Vox’s Jeff Stein noted.

The organizers of the convention countered that their program currently includes 60 women and only two men, and that they had invited a number of women — including Hillary Clinton, Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) — who were unable to attend. And while Sanders is slated to speak on opening night, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) will give the keynote address.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/10/13/16469216/bernie-sanders-womens-conference-speech

[Mr. Morden]

Slate has an article on Moulton.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/10/who-is-seth-moulton-for.html

Some notable excerpts:

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[Mr. Morden]

Hillary Clinton announces she's running for president in 2020 (in Welsh):

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/the-one-show/news/a840606/one-show-alex-jones-tricks-hillary-clinton-announcing-2020-presidential-bid/

In other news, Kamala Harris will speak at the Human Rights Campaign's annual dinner later this month:

http://www.losangelesblade.com/2017/10/13/sen-kamala-harris-headline-human-rights-campaigns-national-dinner/

[Sestak]

Holy sh*t the democratic field is going to have like 50 candidates in it.

Good. No more heirs to the throne.

[henster]

Holy sh*t the democratic field is going to have like 50 candidates in it.

Good. No more heirs to the throne.

I think we will have 4 or 5 serious candidate and that will narrow down to 2 by March. A lot of these names thrown around like Moulton, Ryan, Garcetti will prob drop out before Iowa.

[NewYorkExpress]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/15/mexicos-vicente-fox-trolls-trump-announces-mock-2020-run-for-white-house.html

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I know it's trolling...but the constitution only says he can't be sworn in, not that he can't run...great way to mess with Trump.