The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread, Part 2

[President Johnson]

Dem Rep. Swalwell eyeing presidential run in 2020

#DoubleDigitField

[Virginiá]

Delaney explains how he was able to win in a brutally conservative 55 - 39 Clinton district:

https://twitter.com/JohnKDelaney/status/1031600034721222656

[Mr. Morden]

Dem Rep. Swalwell eyeing presidential run in 2020

So many random people are considering a run. Is it always like that?

The number of people testing the waters this time has got to be a record.  The 2016 GOP race also had a high number of people testing the waters (the bulk of whom ended up running), but not quite *this* high.

[tosk]

Hadn't seen this on the thread so ---
 https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/20/opinions/admiral-mcraven-for-president-2020-trump-wheeler/index.html

[Mr. Morden]

Warren makes another present tense denial:

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/402868-elizabeth-warren-says-focused-on-senate-race-not-on-running-for-president

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[foxh8er]

Hadn't seen this on the thread so ---
 https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/20/opinions/admiral-mcraven-for-president-2020-trump-wheeler/index.html

His denials are much more credible than the rest though.

He'd make an amazing VP for anybody however. I've been boosting McRaven (for exactly this reason - see my earlier posts from about a year ago) since December 2016 and him running would make me switch my early support away from Warren.

[96FJV]

I feel like McRaven would be great for someone who Trump would claim is an elitist. Like for Warren, Harris, Gillibrand, etc. Republicans always scream about Vets and the Military, so I'd love to watch them attack McRaven.

[President Johnson]

I feel like McRaven would be great for someone who Trump would claim is an elitist. Like for Warren, Harris, Gillibrand, etc. Republicans always scream about Vets and the Military, so I'd love to watch them attack McRaven.

Well, maybe the VP spot, although I prefer professionals mostly. McRaven would be a good National Security Advisor, Secretary of Defense or Veteran's Secretary.

[tosk]

I feel like McRaven would be great for someone who Trump would claim is an elitist. Like for Warren, Harris, Gillibrand, etc. Republicans always scream about Vets and the Military, so I'd love to watch them attack McRaven.

Well, maybe the VP spot, although I prefer professionals mostly. McRaven would be a good National Security Advisor, Secretary of Defense or Veteran's Secretary.

agree with pretty much all of you. Mostly included it since it was relevant, I don't think he'd run. He was floated as a VP for Sec. Clinton, no? He seems to be a good speaker and his resume is stellar so he's a solid VP pick for anyone and absolutely is cabinet material.

[libertpaulian]

Elizabeth Warren appeared on the news today and stated in regards to the Mollie Tibbets murder that Americans need to be more focused on "real issues."

Looks like she's flunked Part 1 of her electabilty test for 2020.  Shades of Dukakis 1988 when he gave a robotic, technocratic answer on the death penalty in the event a perp raped and murdered his wife.

[foxh8er]

Elizabeth Warren appeared on the news today and stated in regards to the Mollie Tibbets murder that Americans need to be more focused on "real issues."

She's right though. Do you really think people are going to remember that in 2020? They'll probably try and convict the guy next year before anybody votes.

[libertpaulian]

Elizabeth Warren appeared on the news today and stated in regards to the Mollie Tibbets murder that Americans need to be more focused on "real issues."

She's right though. Do you really think people are going to remember that in 2020? They'll probably try and convict the guy next year before anybody votes.

Did she have to sound so cold-hearted and technocratic, though?  I mean, really.  What is it with people from Massachusetts and their inability to project empathy?

Warren with this.  Romney with the "47%" and the "I like to fire people!" comments.  Dukakis with his robotic answer on his wife's rapist and murderer getting the death penalty.

[Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️]

Elizabeth Warren appeared on the news today and stated in regards to the Mollie Tibbets murder that Americans need to be more focused on "real issues."

She's right though. Do you really think people are going to remember that in 2020? They'll probably try and convict the guy next year before anybody votes.

Dukakis was right too.

I think you are right that nobody will remember this in 2020, but it is not the sort of thing she should be in the habit of saying when it comes to debate time.

[libertpaulian]

Elizabeth Warren appeared on the news today and stated in regards to the Mollie Tibbets murder that Americans need to be more focused on "real issues."

She's right though. Do you really think people are going to remember that in 2020? They'll probably try and convict the guy next year before anybody votes.

Dukakis was right too.

I think you are right that nobody will remember this in 2020, but it is not the sort of thing she should be in the habit of saying when it comes to debate time.

Whether they're right or wrong isn't the answer.  It's HOW you answer that matters.

Someone like Stacey Abrams, Beto O'Rourke, Phil Bredesen, etc. would have been able to articulate their views on this issue in a much more empathetic and classy way.

[Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️]

Whether they're right or wrong isn't the answer.  It's HOW you answer that matters.

Agreed. I was trying to say that Dukakis was substantively right too as an illustration of the fact that being substantively right doesn't much matter.

[Beet]

Whether they're right or wrong isn't the answer.  It's HOW you answer that matters.

Agreed. I was trying to say that Dukakis was substantively right too as an illustration of the fact that being substantively right doesn't much matter.

Dukakis was hurt by criminal justice issues because in 1988, we were coming off an over 2-decade wave of soaring crime rates, including rape and murder. We are not coming off a 2-decade wave of soaring crime rates today. The context matters.

The 2-decade wave that we are coming off of today is one of income inequality, and that should be the Democrats' advantage, but they won't because they prefer instead to focus on social issues. Warren is actually in a much stronger position to take advantage of that then Abrams, O'Rourke, or Bredesen. And I say that as someone who thinks both O'Rourke and Abrams will win.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Sanders just had the distinction of being the only Democrat to vote no on the Defense-Labor-HHS appropriations Minibus.

[Progressive Pessimist]

I feel like McRaven would be great for someone who Trump would claim is an elitist. Like for Warren, Harris, Gillibrand, etc. Republicans always scream about Vets and the Military, so I'd love to watch them attack McRaven.

Trump has mocked veterans and their families on numerous occasions. It's likely that he will do it again without any consequence, especially if it is against a political opponent of his. Yet he and the Republicans will still use chicken-hawk tactics to spite Democrats. Republicans are repulsively capable of having their cake and eating it too.

[Mr. Morden]

Anonymous sources in Tom Steyer’s orbit tell CNBC that he will “likely run” for president if Dems do well in the midterms:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/23/tom-steyer-considers-run-for-president-as-he-pushes-to-impeach-trump.html

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Avenatti is attending the DNC meeting in Chicago:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/23/avenatti-dnc-chicago-795129

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[Mr. Morden]

Biden:

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/403335-bidens-midterm-strategy-has-a-presidential-feel

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[Mr. Morden]

Bullock (in NH) says he has no timetable for a 2020 decision:

https://twitter.com/steinhauserNH1/status/1033101734292467713

[Mr. Morden]

Interview with Buttigieg in Rolling Stone:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/pete_buttigieg-36-year-old-mayor-south-bend-indiana-2020-713662/

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[President Johnson]

Bullock (in NH) says he has no timetable for a 2020 decision:

https://twitter.com/steinhauserNH1/status/1033101734292467713

I think the chance Bullock runs is at least 90%. Probably he'll announce somewhere in between; not the first one but not the last one.

[Mr. Morden]

Bullock (in NH) says he has no timetable for a 2020 decision:

https://twitter.com/steinhauserNH1/status/1033101734292467713

I think the chance Bullock runs is at least 90%. Probably he'll announce somewhere in between; not the first one but not the last one.

Sitting governors are often among the last presidential candidates to announce their candidacy, simply because it's harder to justify being a part-time governor than it is a part-time legislator.

That said, small population states like Montana tend to have short legislative sessions at the beginning of the year.  According to this:

http://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/2017-state-legislative-session-calendar.aspx

Montana's 2017 legislative session ended on April 28th of that year.  If it's similar in 2019, then maybe Bullock will officially launch his candidacy just after that.

[NewYorkExpress]

Sanders just had the distinction of being the only Democrat to vote no on the Defense-Labor-HHS appropriations Minibus.

Sanders isn't a Democrat. He caucuses with the Democrats. There is a difference.