Will A Republican Ever Win Without Ohio?
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« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2017, 05:56:19 PM »
« edited: October 08, 2017, 05:58:28 PM by super6646 »

It's probably not a good idea to say that it will never happen, but it's unlikely in the current climate. If you told someone 20-30 years ago that a Republican would win without NV, CO, or VA, they probably would've called you crazy.

All of those states had been lost by a Republican winning nationwide before 2016.

Most recently:

Nevada in 1908
Colorado in 1908
Virginia in 1924

all of them were long ago, but had still happened.

Currently, Republicans have never won while losing any of these states:
Ohio
North Dakota
Alaska
Arizona

Prior to Bush Jr, the list was double in size than it is now:
Vermont
New Hampshire
Illinois
New Mexico

it is interesting that Donald Trump lost all 4 of these states, while Bush Jr won a single state on that list each time; New Hampshire in 2000, and New Mexico in 2004.

Iowa was also on this list until Bush Sr lost it in 1988.

The closest a Republican has ever come to winning without Ohio has to have been 1916.  They lost Ohio by 7.67%.  They lost the tipping point state by 0.38%.

Ummm, the GOP has won w/o North Dakota, Alaska, and Arizona in the past. North Dakota didn't vote till 1892, Arizona in 1912, and Alaska in 1960. Ohio is the only state a Republican has never won without.

Anyway, I'm sure it'll happen EVENTUALLY, but the demographics as of now suggest not.
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2017, 06:04:08 PM »

It's probably not a good idea to say that it will never happen, but it's unlikely in the current climate. If you told someone 20-30 years ago that a Republican would win without NV, CO, or VA, they probably would've called you crazy.

All of those states had been lost by a Republican winning nationwide before 2016.

Most recently:

Nevada in 1908
Colorado in 1908
Virginia in 1924

all of them were long ago, but had still happened.

Currently, Republicans have never won while losing any of these states:
Ohio
North Dakota
Alaska
Arizona

Prior to Bush Jr, the list was double in size than it is now:
Vermont
New Hampshire
Illinois
New Mexico

it is interesting that Donald Trump lost all 4 of these states, while Bush Jr won a single state on that list each time; New Hampshire in 2000, and New Mexico in 2004.

Iowa was also on this list until Bush Sr lost it in 1988.

The closest a Republican has ever come to winning without Ohio has to have been 1916.  They lost Ohio by 7.67%.  They lost the tipping point state by 0.38%.

Ummm, the GOP has won w/o North Dakota, Alaska, and Arizona in the past. North Dakota didn't vote till 1892, Arizona in 1912, and Alaska in 1960. Ohio is the only state a Republican has never won without.

Anyway, I'm sure it'll happen EVENTUALLY, but the demographics as of now suggest not.

Oh, sorry, when we say that, we meant that the GOP has yet to win while losing ND/AK/AZ.
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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2017, 09:25:36 AM »

It was possible Pre-2008, but it is extremely unlikely anytime in the near future.
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« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2020, 09:19:47 PM »

In 2004 and 2012, Bush and Romney probably would've had to have won WI.
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