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Question: Which is your favorite city in New York State besides NYC?
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Buffalo, Erie County
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Rochester, Monroe County
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Yonkers, Westchester County
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« on: September 22, 2017, 12:47:04 PM »

Which is your favorite city in New York State besides New York City?
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2017, 12:49:07 PM »

Gotta rep Buffalo as far as the poll goes.

Saratoga Springs is better though.
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2017, 12:49:14 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2017, 02:57:33 PM »

Buffalo with these choices.
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2017, 03:16:39 PM »

THE BILLS
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2017, 03:43:34 PM »

Buffalo followed by Syracuse and the rest are not even close.
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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2017, 06:54:20 PM »


Yeah, I'm in the Big Apple now and can't comprehend living anywhere else in New York.
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2017, 08:17:09 PM »

Buffalo.

But around Binghampton sounds nice.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2017, 06:39:10 AM »
« Edited: September 23, 2017, 06:42:35 AM by Torie »

There are 62 cities in NY (the third oldest city in NY happens to be the county seat of Columbia County but I digress).  What a pathetic list to choose from. But from the list, Rochester by far.

NY has not allowed any new city to come into existence since the 1940's (the newest city is Rye).
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2017, 07:11:37 AM »

Buffalo
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2017, 10:46:37 AM »

There are 62 cities in NY (the third oldest city in NY happens to be the county seat of Columbia County but I digress).  What a pathetic list to choose from. But from the list, Rochester by far.

NY has not allowed any new city to come into existence since the 1940's (the newest city is Rye).

Isn't a city a municipality with a population of more than 100,000 inhabitants?
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2017, 11:54:44 AM »
« Edited: September 23, 2017, 12:18:34 PM by Torie »

There are 62 cities in NY (the third oldest city in NY happens to be the county seat of Columbia County but I digress).  What a pathetic list to choose from. But from the list, Rochester by far.

NY has not allowed any new city to come into existence since the 1940's (the newest city is Rye).

Isn't a city a municipality with a population of more than 100,000 inhabitants?

No, a city is a type of municipality created by NY law, that has considerably more powers that the two other types of municipalities in NY (it can basically within its boundaries supplant county authority over almost everything, and in that sense is close to a co-equal of counties). The other two statutory municipal creations in NY are towns and villages. They have considerably less power, and to this day, I don't know as to what powers a village can supplant the authority of the town that it is in. In Nassau, some of the villages are big, with Hempstead being the biggest at about 54,000. The smallest city is Sherrill, with less than 4,000.  The early birds get the city worm in NY is the moral of the story, while the rest of the urban clusters laying around out there are shut out of that particular elite club.

Oh, and then there are the five boroughs, coterminous with counties, in NYC, that are their own little unique puppy, but these counties and boroughs have been largely shorn of most of their former powers when they were gobbled up by the new NYC creation, at least outside the judicial system, and some other minor stuff, including of course most salient to Atlas, getting counted separately for vote count purposes.
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2017, 12:13:42 PM »

There are 62 cities in NY (the third oldest city in NY happens to be the county seat of Columbia County but I digress).  What a pathetic list to choose from. But from the list, Rochester by far.

NY has not allowed any new city to come into existence since the 1940's (the newest city is Rye).

Isn't a city a municipality with a population of more than 100,000 inhabitants?

No, a city is a type of municipality created by NY law, that has considerably more powers that the two other types of municipalities in NY (it can basically within its boundaries supplant county authority over almost everything, and in that sense is close to a co-equal of counties). The other two statutory municipal creations in NY are towns and villages. They have considerably less power, and to this day, I don't know as to what powers a village can supplant the authority of the town that it is in. In Nassau, some of the villages are big, with Hempstead being the biggest at about 54,000. The smallest city is Sherrill, with less than 4,000.  The early birds get the city worm in NY is the moral of the story, while the rest of the urban clusters laying around out there are shut out of that particular elite club.

Okay, then it is a language barrier. Is there an official term for cities with a population with over 100,000?
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2017, 12:17:43 PM »
« Edited: September 23, 2017, 12:19:25 PM by Torie »

There are 62 cities in NY (the third oldest city in NY happens to be the county seat of Columbia County but I digress).  What a pathetic list to choose from. But from the list, Rochester by far.

NY has not allowed any new city to come into existence since the 1940's (the newest city is Rye).

Isn't a city a municipality with a population of more than 100,000 inhabitants?


No, a city is a type of municipality created by NY law, that has considerably more powers that the two other types of municipalities in NY (it can basically within its boundaries supplant county authority over almost everything, and in that sense is close to a co-equal of counties). The other two statutory municipal creations in NY are towns and villages. They have considerably less power, and to this day, I don't know as to what powers a village can supplant the authority of the town that it is in. In Nassau, some of the villages are big, with Hempstead being the biggest at about 54,000. The smallest city is Sherrill, with less than 4,000.  The early birds get the city worm in NY is the moral of the story, while the rest of the urban clusters laying around out there are shut out of that particular elite club.

Okay, then it is a language barrier. Is there an official term for cities with a population with over 100,000?

No.  But in NY law, often cities with over 1 million in population, have special state laws applying only to them (usually giving them more power), the most recent being that such big cities can reduce their default speed limit down to 25 mph, while smaller cities are still able to go down only to 30 mph. Gee, I wonder what cities in NY have over a million people. Can anyone help me with this? Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2017, 03:47:41 PM »

There are 62 cities in NY (the third oldest city in NY happens to be the county seat of Columbia County but I digress).  What a pathetic list to choose from. But from the list, Rochester by far.

NY has not allowed any new city to come into existence since the 1940's (the newest city is Rye).

Isn't a city a municipality with a population of more than 100,000 inhabitants?


No, a city is a type of municipality created by NY law, that has considerably more powers that the two other types of municipalities in NY (it can basically within its boundaries supplant county authority over almost everything, and in that sense is close to a co-equal of counties). The other two statutory municipal creations in NY are towns and villages. They have considerably less power, and to this day, I don't know as to what powers a village can supplant the authority of the town that it is in. In Nassau, some of the villages are big, with Hempstead being the biggest at about 54,000. The smallest city is Sherrill, with less than 4,000.  The early birds get the city worm in NY is the moral of the story, while the rest of the urban clusters laying around out there are shut out of that particular elite club.

Okay, then it is a language barrier. Is there an official term for cities with a population with over 100,000?

No.  But in NY law, often cities with over 1 million in population, have special state laws applying only to them (usually giving them more power), the most recent being that such big cities can reduce their default speed limit down to 25 mph, while smaller cities are still able to go down only to 30 mph. Gee, I wonder what cities in NY have over a million people. Can anyone help me with this? Smiley
Philadelphia, perhaps? Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2017, 05:01:49 PM »

Buffalo, obviously.

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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2017, 10:00:09 PM »

Buffalo because of the tongue-twister. Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2017, 08:56:49 PM »

There are 62 cities in NY (the third oldest city in NY happens to be the county seat of Columbia County but I digress).  What a pathetic list to choose from. But from the list, Rochester by far.

NY has not allowed any new city to come into existence since the 1940's (the newest city is Rye).

Isn't a city a municipality with a population of more than 100,000 inhabitants?

No, a city is a type of municipality created by NY law, that has considerably more powers that the two other types of municipalities in NY (it can basically within its boundaries supplant county authority over almost everything, and in that sense is close to a co-equal of counties). The other two statutory municipal creations in NY are towns and villages. They have considerably less power, and to this day, I don't know as to what powers a village can supplant the authority of the town that it is in. In Nassau, some of the villages are big, with Hempstead being the biggest at about 54,000. The smallest city is Sherrill, with less than 4,000.  The early birds get the city worm in NY is the moral of the story, while the rest of the urban clusters laying around out there are shut out of that particular elite club.

Okay, then it is a language barrier. Is there an official term for cities with a population with over 100,000?

No, and to complicate matters for foreigners, each US state has its own definition of different municipal types. Some types are by state law and some are constitutional. For example, in IL there is little difference in state law between cities and villages other than how their governing body is organized. However, both cities and villages have the constitutional power to be home rule (with lots of additional authority) once they have 25,000 people. However, cities and villages can become or renounce home rule by referendum, so 25,000 isn't even a firm number in that regard.
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2017, 04:13:14 PM »

Saratoga or Lake Placid
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