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Statilius the Epicurean
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Junior Chimp
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« on: September 28, 2017, 05:03:11 PM »

I don't know about "pro-choice", but the anti-abortion movement is a development of political Christianity only over the past few generations.
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Statilius the Epicurean
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2017, 08:52:30 PM »
« Edited: September 29, 2017, 08:55:36 PM by Statilius the Epicurean »

I don't know about "pro-choice", but the anti-abortion movement is a development of political Christianity only over the past few generations.
The Pro-Life movement is based on science not religion.

Is that why it only exists in countries with significant influence from political Christianity? Do they not have science in Japan?

Btw, personhood is philosophical, not scientific.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2017, 08:43:09 PM »

I don't know about "pro-choice", but the anti-abortion movement is a development of political Christianity only over the past few generations.
The Pro-Life movement is based on science not religion.

Is that why it only exists in countries with significant influence from political Christianity? Do they not have science in Japan?

Btw, personhood is philosophical, not scientific.
Every biology textbook will tell you that per the scientific definition of life begins at conception. The Pro-Abortion movement rejects that and declares life is philosophical and sentience is the issue. Your sarcasm is noted and disregarded.

https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/embryoquotes2.html

https://lozierinstitute.org/a-scientific-view-of-when-life-begins/

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/life-issues/when-human-life-begins

Wow, you googled for a few articles to support your position and found them. I can do the same for mine, ex: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2017/04/when_does_life_begin_outside_the_christian_right_the_answer_is_over_time.html

The abortion debate is philosophical, not scientific. That's why in Europe it's only an issue in countries strongly under the influence of the Catholic Church, and not an issue at all in Asia.
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Statilius the Epicurean
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2017, 10:18:54 AM »

Depends on denomination. For the UCC and Methodist types who take most of the Bible in an allegorical sense, likely yes. For those who tend to take the Bible literally, likely no.

Except that in the Bible God makes women miscarry, outlines his own abortion procedure in Numbers and in Exodus considers a foetus less than a person under the Law.
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