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« Reply #325 on: September 24, 2017, 08:59:36 PM »

It seems all seats are counted.  For second vote it seems to be

CDU/CSU    33.0
SPD            20.5
Linke           9.2
Greens        8.9
FDP           10.7
AfD            12.6

AfD under-performed exit polls.
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« Reply #326 on: September 24, 2017, 09:02:44 PM »

It seems all seats are counted.  For second vote it seems to be

CDU/CSU    33.0  32.9
SPD            20.5
Linke           9.2
Greens        8.9
FDP           10.7
AfD            12.6

AfD under-performed exit polls.
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« Reply #327 on: September 24, 2017, 10:09:01 PM »

Looks like there will be 92 overhand/compensation seats for 690 seats overall, easily a record. 
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« Reply #328 on: September 25, 2017, 02:20:23 AM »

Awh, disappointed that Linke came on top of the Greens. But AfD underperforming the exit polls is good.
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« Reply #329 on: September 25, 2017, 02:22:52 AM »

Petry has announced she will not join the AfD faction in parliament.
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« Reply #330 on: September 25, 2017, 02:32:39 AM »

Looks like there will be 92 overhand/compensation seats for 690 seats overall, easily a record. 

now i read 709 seats overall
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« Reply #331 on: September 25, 2017, 02:34:15 AM »

Lolwut

So she does probably think she has enough people on the board for her own faction. Or else it would not make to much sense.

I also noticed a very staatstragend tone in her comments yesterday, that was actually new, in my opinion.
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« Reply #332 on: September 25, 2017, 03:08:30 AM »

German federal election 2021:
CDU/CSU 34.1%
SPD 24.8%
FDP 12.2%
AfD 10.4%
Left 9.2%
Greens 4.8%
Others 4.2%

CDU/CSU-FDP majority

Incoming Chancellor: Jens Spahn (CDU)
Incoming Finance Minister: Christian Lindner/some other FDP member (FDP)
Incoming Foreign Affairs Minister: Karl Theodor zu Guttenberg

Cmon Germany, you can do it. Appoint this government and this time we won't even fight back Smiley.
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« Reply #333 on: September 25, 2017, 04:29:41 AM »

The SPD still is 3.5 times as big as our social democratic party, it can always be worse Smiley

But half of 1998, when Chancellor Schröder got 40.9%. Terrible. We need a renewal.
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« Reply #334 on: September 25, 2017, 07:40:48 AM »

From the cool graphics section:

regional majorities for typical coalitions, pictured as landmasses and ocean

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/bundestagswahl-2017-wo-eine-jamaika-koalition-eine-mehrheit-hat-und-wo-nicht-a-1168632.html

A more detailed model of voters migration

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/wahlergebnisse-volksparteien-laufen-waehler-weg-afd-und-fdp-profitieren-a-1169611.html
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« Reply #335 on: September 25, 2017, 07:42:59 AM »
« Edited: September 25, 2017, 10:46:25 AM by Ἅιδης »

There will be 709 seats in the Bundestag.

709

That means 111 overhang and balance seats.



200 seats for the CDU and 46 seats for the CSU (all via direct mandates).
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« Reply #336 on: September 25, 2017, 07:48:23 AM »

Also interesting:

Chancellery Minister Peter Altmaier won the battle of ministers against Justice Minister Heiko Maas in the constituency Saarlouis (No. 297) 38.0% to 32.1%. It is the only district where two current ministers competed against each other.
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« Reply #337 on: September 25, 2017, 07:56:24 AM »

Free voters have become the eighth-biggest party with 1.0%, narrowly leading Die PARTEI by 10,000 votes.
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« Reply #338 on: September 25, 2017, 08:11:27 AM »
« Edited: September 25, 2017, 08:19:30 AM by Ἅιδης »

If the Bundestag results were also Landtag results, coalitions without the AfD were impossible in Brandenburg, Saxony and Thuringia. A "grand" didn't have a majority in Berlin, either.

Just realized that the AfD is the strongest party in Saxony. Shocked

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« Reply #339 on: September 25, 2017, 08:33:34 AM »

If the Bundestag results were also Landtag results, coalitions without the AfD were impossible in Brandenburg, Saxony and Thuringia. A "grand" didn't have a majority in Berlin, either.

Just realized that the AfD is the strongest party in Saxony. Shocked



Almost makes me wish these were actually Landtag results, just to grab some popcorn and see what would happen
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« Reply #340 on: September 25, 2017, 09:08:51 AM »

Wouldn't there be a "grand plus" coalition in that case, with FDP or Greens recruited to plug the gap? Although if those two don't make it given their weakness in East Germany, that would mean a pretty mad choice.
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« Reply #341 on: September 25, 2017, 09:22:21 AM »

Wouldn't there be a "grand plus" coalition in that case, with FDP or Greens recruited to plug the gap? Although if those two don't make it given their weakness in East Germany, that would mean a pretty mad choice.

Actually yeah, an extended grand coalition would work in all of those cases:

Brandenburg: Either CDU+SPD+Greens or CDU+FDP+SPD would get a majority

Sachsen: The Greens only got 4.6% so they would theoretically be out. As for the remaining, CDU+SPD+FDP would just barely get a working majority (45.6% compared to 43.1% for AfD+Linke). Though considering CDU only got 26.9% (didn't even come first) and SPD got barely more than 10% this doesn't really qualify as a grand coalition anymore Tongue

Thüringen: Again, the greens only got 3.6% so they would theoretically be out. This means that a regular grand coalition would actually have a very narrow majority (46.2% for CDU+SPD vs 45.6% for everyone else except the greens).

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« Reply #342 on: September 25, 2017, 10:14:34 AM »

There will be 709 seats in the Bundestag.

709

That means 111 overhang and balance seats.

111 is insane, that has to be a record, right?

What's the maximum possible number of overhang/balance seats? Like is there even a legal limit? If not, what is the largest theoretically possible size the bundestag can get?
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« Reply #343 on: September 25, 2017, 10:21:42 AM »

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As always the risk of minor inconsistencies with rounding etc.
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« Reply #344 on: September 25, 2017, 10:25:46 AM »

Wow, great, Al!

Does anybody know whether Nazi Bernd was elected?
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« Reply #345 on: September 25, 2017, 10:26:54 AM »

There will be 709 seats in the Bundestag.

709

That means 111 overhang and balance seats.

111 is insane, that has to be a record, right?

What's the maximum possible number of overhang/balance seats? Like is there even a legal limit? If not, what is the largest theoretically possible size the bundestag can get?

There's no legal limit.
I know that Schleswig-Holstein Landtag has an official limit, but it wasn't clear how to interpret the bill, so the Supreme Court of SH ruled that there had to be new elections after the 2009 elections.
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« Reply #346 on: September 25, 2017, 10:28:39 AM »

Wow, great, Al!

Does anybody know whether Nazi Bernd was elected?

He didn't run. Smiley
If he had run the district Eichsfeld – Nordhausen – Kyffhäuserkreis (No. 189) in Northern Thuriniga would probably have been his constituency.
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« Reply #347 on: September 25, 2017, 10:38:00 AM »

In the old west Germany alone how are the results?
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« Reply #348 on: September 25, 2017, 10:40:07 AM »

In the old west Germany alone how are the results?



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« Reply #349 on: September 25, 2017, 10:55:38 AM »

Interestingly, the SPD won all but one direct seats in Hamburg, plus they have a wide lead over the CDU regarding first votes, but the CDU won the second vote in Hamburg.
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