German Federal Election - Sept. 24 - Results Thread

[mvd10]

Any chance of a zu Guttenberg comeback as a minister btw? There was quite a lot of hype after he returned to campaign for the CSU (and I'd rather see him as the next chancellor than a Merkel clone, but I'm afraid that ship has sailed )

[mvd10]

I'd be wary of leaked exit polls and anonymous rumours on election days. Most of them turned out to be false in France.

[mvd10]

Any chance of a zu Guttenberg comeback as a minister btw? There was quite a lot of hype after he returned to campaign for the CSU (and I'd rather see him as the next chancellor than a Merkel clone, but I'm afraid that ship has sailed )

I think he rather becomes the next Bavarian minister president.

As long as he becomes chancellor in 2021 . Zu Guttenberg must have been the original flawless beautiful one.

[mvd10]

*popcorn* frikandellen

[mvd10]

Lindner I love you
Lindner I do
Whenever we're apart
My heart beats only for you

FDP!

If I’m not mistaken would t this be the worst result for the  CDU/CSU in the history of Germany ?

Yep

[mvd10]

If you only count post reunification results it's the worst though, but Hades is right, I forgot about 1949. It's funny how Germany started about with quite a lot of parties in 1949, but gradually moved to having only 3 (or 4 if you count CSU) parties represented in parliament by the early 60s.

[mvd10]

And wasn't the very early FDP quite nationalist?

[mvd10]

The SPD still is 3.5 times as big as our social democratic party, it can always be worse

[mvd10]

This Bundestag election will be the first, since the end of Nazi era in 1945, in which a far-right party enters the German parliament (AfD) - a trend we are seeing in many places in Europe.

Wrong: far-right parties won seats in the first three Bundestag elections.

I just checked the 1949, 1953 and 1957 German election results and was unable to discern same. Care to name 'em?

The German Party was pretty right-wing and the FDP had some nationalist leanings back then. I guess you could describe them as far-right given the things that happened in Germany a couple of years earlier.

[mvd10]

I assume by Merkel's record, both the FDP and Greens will fall out of parliament next election?

CDU/CSU majority with Jens SPAHN as chancellor?

[mvd10]

Will there be exit polls/results with crosstabs?

[mvd10]

To be honest it's incredible that the AfD almost outperformed the PVV even though the PVV's ceiling is much higher than the AfD's.

[mvd10]

The AfD did drop a bit in 2017 (compared to their heights in 2016), but they already were surging the days before the election. I actually overestimated the AfD vote

[mvd10]

In retrospect it seems SPD should have formed a SPD-Green-Linke government in 2013.  The SPD fear of losing the middle ground if it forms an alliance with Linke was irrelevant since not forming such an alliance did not fetch it one Centrist vote relative to 2013.  It just lost votes to AfD, Greens, Linke, and FDP across the board. 

But would it's members even have accepted it? And since the majority would have been rather small I'm sure a lot of centrist SPD/Greens lawmakers would have done anything to prevent it. The SPD probably is one of the most right-wing European social democratic parties.

[mvd10]

Jewish Groups Worldwide Alarmed by Far-right AfD Breakthrough in German Election

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.813942

I have quite a number of Jewish friends who are really upset about the election results.

I'm Jewish, and I recognize that the AFD was always going to get into government. I'm only really upset that CDU fell below 35%

You mean into parliament right?

[mvd10]

German federal election 2021:
CDU/CSU 34.1%
SPD 24.8%
FDP 12.2%
AfD 10.4%
Left 9.2%
Greens 4.8%
Others 4.2%

CDU/CSU-FDP majority

Incoming Chancellor: Jens Spahn (CDU)
Incoming Finance Minister: Christian Lindner/some other FDP member (FDP)
Incoming Foreign Affairs Minister: Karl Theodor zu Guttenberg

Cmon Germany, you can do it. Appoint this government and this time we won't even fight back .