HOUSE BILL: September 2017 Foreign Relations Review (Passed)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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To Be Concluded
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Sponsor: NC Yankee for the State Department, NSC and the Administration.
House Designation: HB 1155

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The Sponsor has 24 hours to commence advocacy and the rest of the members have an additional 48 hours to respond with their initial comments, questions and concerns.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So we were very close to finishing this back in February. Towards the beginning of September, President Fhtagn, Secretary of State Snowguy and myself began to dig back into it. Various people assisted with elements providing expertise on various countries.

Back in February, Dfwlibertylover assisted with much of the South America Section months ago, Europe and Asia were the work myself Leinad and Ted. With I think Truman and Blair maybe playing a role but I cannot remember. Beginning in September President Fhtagn, Snowguy (with some phone a friend assistance from Foucaulf), Mr. Reactionary, Young Texan, and probably someone I am forgetting, completed Africa and Oceania.

The President and Secretary then reviewed the old entries, revising it to reflect more current information and situations and cleaned up the entries and so forth.

Now I realize that I may not be mentioning everyone who assisted with this task and for that I apologize and want to expressed my gratitude. It is a big world with a lot of challenges and some people know more about different areas and countries.

In the past we have had heated debates, particularly over policies on places like Israel, Iraq, Iran and North Korea, among many others. I welcome that discussion and encourage people to look for oversights. This is a big document, stuff could easily have been deleted in transition between formats. And perhaps there are situations that all the people above were not aware of and so providing background and insight in that regards, will be most helpful.

I look forward to the discussion and the debate.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

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Ah, memories.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Ah, memories.

lol

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Not much feedback from the members here. Only 24 hours left for the 7 others to make initial comments.

[JGibson]

This is a good idea for Atlasia to have: a status list for every country on economic and military trade restrictions.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Do the proposed "full" economic and military sanctions on Iran take into account the 2015 deal? If so, would these sanctions amount to a repeal of said deal?

[fhtagn]

Do the proposed "full" economic and military sanctions on Iran take into account the 2015 deal? If so, would these sanctions amount to a repeal of said deal?

This was a detail I believe we missed when we went down the list, so of course that should probably be a change that gets made to this.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Do the proposed "full" economic and military sanctions on Iran take into account the 2015 deal? If so, would these sanctions amount to a repeal of said deal?

I think Ted and/or Leinad did Iran while I was at work on the night of February 9th or 10th.

That being said, and while this may not be the best opportunity to do, having a debate on the success or failures of the Iran deal might not be the worst thing to have at this juncture. 

[Former Senator Haslam2020]

Great!

[Former Senator Haslam2020]

I wish we'd sort of privately discuss civil rights with some of these countries though. Especially Mynamar.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I wish we'd sort of privately discuss civil rights with some of these countries though. Especially Mynamar.

While such soft diplomacy is probably more the domain of the DoS than of Congress, I definitely agree with this.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I wish we'd sort of privately discuss civil rights with some of these countries though. Especially Mynamar.

While such soft diplomacy is probably more the domain of the DoS than of Congress, I definitely agree with this.

I would be open to this. I even at one point recommended that AZ take on temporary negotiators to play the role of certain countries in negotiations with the State Department. Though getting people from outside the game, as most of the best experts would be to play such roles (they would thus be impartial as well), would likely prove difficult though.

[RFayette]

I support the bill, and the classifications seem reasonable.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

IT has been recommend to me that we should not include countries that are "not recognized" since the mere act of listing them among other countries extends recognition. Thus they should be either removed or referred to using some form of euphemism such as "The non-sovereign political unity know as...." or the "disputed territory know as..."

[JGibson]

I'd recommend the "disputed territory known as..." compromise idea.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I'd recommend the "disputed territory known as..." compromise idea.

Should we create a new category for them or should we leave them in their respective continent based lists, with that added on to each one's name?

[JGibson]

I'd recommend the "disputed territory known as..." compromise idea.

Should we create a new category for them or should we leave them in their respective continent based lists, with that added on to each one's name?

Maybe leave them in the continent-based groupings, but with the disputed territory notation added to it.

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

I'd recommend the "disputed territory known as..." compromise idea.

Should we create a new category for them or should we leave them in their respective continent based lists, with that added on to each one's name?

Maybe leave them in the continent-based groupings, but with the disputed territory notation added to it.

I second this idea.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Origination
Status: Representatives have 24 hours to object.

[Former Senator Haslam2020]

What about the unrecognized nation of Transnistria? I think eventually we should recognize a couple of these nations. But about Spain, we needa speak out against the violence.