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Kingpoleon
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« on: September 26, 2017, 10:25:50 PM »

So should we say, because of Sanders becoming the face of the party, that Democrats are becoming the face of the extreme left? No, just like we shouldn't say the opposite.

And it's Alabama.  Running someone like Moore against someone like Phil Scott in Vermont isn't going to work.

Bernie is intellectually ideological and that's fine and many may disagree but his ideology is rooted in an intellectually consistent belief in things like social democracy. I disagree with him on several things and I supported Hillary in 2016. But there are essentially 0 Democrats who have an insidious, toxic mere presence in the vein of Trump or Moore. The whole embrace of Trump as the conservative populist savior is intellectually inconsistent and dishonest. It's breathtaking.

Coraxion, genocide deniers The Young Turks, Antifa, and Occupy Wall Street might want to talk to you. Come on - Pramila Jayapal, Ben Jealous, Kshama Sawant, David Zuckerman... A lot of very left wing people are beginning to gain popularity. The Democrats almost elected Keith Ellison as their DNC Chair.
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Kingpoleon
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2017, 11:12:53 AM »

Most Democrats (not all) fanatically support Planned Parenthood, and fight against efforts to regulate the abortion industry.  Many even celebrate it abortion.  Fighting to keep murder legal seems pretty extreme to me.

Most Democrats (not all) believe that holding traditional Christian, Muslim, or Jewish views on sexuality makes one an evil person that must be marginalized.  MLK Jr., Hubert Humphrey, and many more would be considered bigots by modern liberal standards.

Interesting that you think MLK Jr. would have opposed same sex marriage, considering Coretta Scott King became an advocate for gay rights as early as 1986.
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Kingpoleon
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2017, 03:48:05 PM »

So should we say, because of Sanders becoming the face of the party, that Democrats are becoming the face of the extreme left? No, just like we shouldn't say the opposite.

And it's Alabama.  Running someone like Moore against someone like Phil Scott in Vermont isn't going to work.

Bernie is intellectually ideological and that's fine and many may disagree but his ideology is rooted in an intellectually consistent belief in things like social democracy. I disagree with him on several things and I supported Hillary in 2016. But there are essentially 0 Democrats who have an insidious, toxic mere presence in the vein of Trump or Moore. The whole embrace of Trump as the conservative populist savior is intellectually inconsistent and dishonest. It's breathtaking.

Coraxion, genocide deniers The Young Turks, Antifa, and Occupy Wall Street might want to talk to you. Come on - Pramila Jayapal, Ben Jealous, Kshama Sawant, David Zuckerman... A lot of very left wing people are beginning to gain popularity. The Democrats almost elected Keith Ellison as their DNC Chair.

Name one way Keith Ellison is remotely is toxic as a thousand top Republicans from Trump et al other than being from a scary scary religion

Pardon me if I'm distracting from your, I assume clever-as-ever, point, but please don't accuse me of Islamophobia using an implication. I doubt you meant to do so, but please, please don't try that with me.
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