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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2017, 11:27:22 PM »
« edited: November 14, 2017, 11:45:24 PM by Lincoln Governor Lok »

No surprises that Victoria has the highest yes vote of any state.

The vote in Queensland was a massive shock to me.
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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2017, 12:48:31 AM »
« Edited: November 15, 2017, 03:09:13 AM by Lincoln Governor Lok »

Dean Smith's version of the bill to legalise SSM as been introduced into the parliament

(Dean Smith's version is the liberal version of the bill, not the conservative Ferguson bill)
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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2017, 03:46:46 AM »

Why the eff is the state that is the home of Sydney has the highest No vote?Huh
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« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2017, 04:24:19 AM »

Why the eff is the state that is the home of Sydney has the highest No vote?Huh
Becuase of the conservative non-English speaking background community that live In Western Sydney
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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2017, 04:28:06 AM »

Why the eff is the state that is the home of Sydney has the highest No vote?Huh
Becuase of the conservative non-English speaking background community that live In Western Sydney

Another question, doesn't Melbourne and Sydney have the same proportions of immigrant communities, but Melbourne even in immigrant areas had a higher yes% vote than in Sydney.
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« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2017, 05:32:32 AM »

Why the eff is the state that is the home of Sydney has the highest No vote?Huh
Becuase of the conservative non-English speaking background community that live In Western Sydney

Another question, doesn't Melbourne and Sydney have the same proportions of immigrant communities, but Melbourne even in immigrant areas had a higher yes% vote than in Sydney.

Isn't Melbourne generally less "ghettoised" than Sydney?

As in, it is more mixed throughout, as opposed to having places like Cabramatta or Bankstown that have huge concentrations of Vietnamese or Lebanese
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« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2017, 05:50:58 AM »
« Edited: November 15, 2017, 05:57:14 AM by Lincoln Governor Lok »

Why the eff is the state that is the home of Sydney has the highest No vote?Huh
Becuase of the conservative non-English speaking background community that live In Western Sydney

Another question, doesn't Melbourne and Sydney have the same proportions of immigrant communities, but Melbourne even in immigrant areas had a higher yes% vote than in Sydney.

Isn't Melbourne generally less "ghettoised" than Sydney?

As in, it is more mixed throughout, as opposed to having places like Cabramatta or Bankstown that have huge concentrations of Vietnamese or Lebanese
Yes, this is mostly why. Bruce went No because of the high concentration of foreign born residents in and around Glen Waverley, it is also the electorate with the highest proportion of foreign born citizens in the country (50.8%).

Calwell went no because of it's unusually high concentration of adherents of Catholicism and Islam (38.5% and 16.8% respectively).
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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2017, 08:48:35 AM »

Paul Keating's old seat of Blaxland had the highest No vote.
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« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2017, 09:47:37 AM »
« Edited: November 15, 2017, 09:52:11 AM by Intell »

Why the eff is the state that is the home of Sydney has the highest No vote?Huh
Becuase of the conservative non-English speaking background community that live In Western Sydney

Another question, doesn't Melbourne and Sydney have the same proportions of immigrant communities, but Melbourne even in immigrant areas had a higher yes% vote than in Sydney.

Isn't Melbourne generally less "ghettoised" than Sydney?

As in, it is more mixed throughout, as opposed to having places like Cabramatta or Bankstown that have huge concentrations of Vietnamese or Lebanese

I get that but even if it's spread, the ethnic vote in Melbourne seems to be more in favour than the ethnic vote in Sydney such as in electorates of callwell and bruce which voted no at a lesser rate than sydney electorates. Furthermore, there were areas in Melbourne with a sizeable ethnic population that voted yes, while there was no case like that Sydney.
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« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2017, 09:13:23 PM »

Why did parts of Sydney vote so strongly against it?
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« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2017, 10:01:36 PM »

Why did parts of Sydney vote so strongly against it?


Immigrant communities are homophobic because of the culture of their homeland. (Don't forget gay acceptance wasnt even the norm in most Western countries until a decade ago)

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« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2017, 12:02:18 AM »

Why did parts of Sydney vote so strongly against it?


Immigrant communities are homophobic because of the culture of their homeland. (Don't forget gay acceptance wasn't even the norm in most Western countries until a decade ago)


Also, don't forget the areas around Blaxland are considered Australia's bible belt.
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« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2017, 12:08:14 AM »

Why did parts of Sydney vote so strongly against it?


Immigrant communities are homophobic because of the culture of their homeland. (Don't forget gay acceptance wasn't even the norm in most Western countries until a decade ago)


Also, don't forget the areas around Blaxland are considered Australia's bible belt.







Upper map is of catholics and second is of anglicans.

I know its uncomfortable but the reason why Western Sydney was against marriage equality was because of the large immigrant population who came to Australia but maintain the social customs of their home country of which unfortunately homophobia was a thing.
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« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2017, 12:47:14 AM »
« Edited: November 16, 2017, 06:01:04 AM by Lincoln Governor Lok »

Why did parts of Sydney vote so strongly against it?


Immigrant communities are homophobic because of the culture of their homeland. (Don't forget gay acceptance wasn't even the norm in most Western countries until a decade ago)


Also, don't forget the areas around Blaxland are considered Australia's bible belt.
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I know its uncomfortable but the reason why Western Sydney was against marriage equality was because of the large immigrant population who came to Australia but maintain the social customs of their home country of which unfortunately homophobia was a thing.

I never discounted this in my original post.
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« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2017, 08:09:53 AM »

The Northern Territory results are interesting. There was a lot of speculation that Aboriginals were opposed to gay marriage, which doesn't seem to have been founded.
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« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2017, 09:29:45 PM »

The Northern Territory results are interesting. There was a lot of speculation that Aboriginals were opposed to gay marriage, which doesn't seem to have been founded.
Even if they are, they still only make up about 30% of the population in the NT and also probably have the lowest response rate of any demographic
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« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2017, 11:11:29 PM »

The Northern Territory results are interesting. There was a lot of speculation that Aboriginals were opposed to gay marriage, which doesn't seem to have been founded.
Even if they are, they still only make up about 30% of the population in the NT and also probably have the lowest response rate of any demographic
They're a large majority in the rural areas, though.
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« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2017, 11:33:15 PM »

The Northern Territory results are interesting. There was a lot of speculation that Aboriginals were opposed to gay marriage, which doesn't seem to have been founded.
Even if they are, they still only make up about 30% of the population in the NT and also probably have the lowest response rate of any demographic
They're a large majority in the rural areas, though.
Yeah, rural areas with tiny populations. Not enough to sway the results in the state or either of its electorates.
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« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2017, 12:10:46 AM »

They make up about 43 percent of Lingiari division.
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« Reply #44 on: November 17, 2017, 08:45:27 AM »

The fact that turnout was only 50% is Lingiari is probably the key story there
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