Yet Another Major Russia Story Falls Apart

[JA]

Yet Another Major Russia Story Falls Apart. Is Skepticism Permissible Yet?

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[Nyvin]

Thank goodness if true.

Has no relation to the Trump-Russia scandal though.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Thank goodness if true.

Has no relation to the Trump-Russia scandal though.

It doesn't Glenn Greenwald is a Putin kiss ass hack who like Assange wants to protect Trump until he does irreversable damage to the U.S.

[JA]

Thank goodness if true.

Has no relation to the Trump-Russia scandal though.

It doesn't Glenn Greenwald is a Putin kiss ass hack who like Assange wants to protect Trump until he does irreversable damage to the U.S.

That's some Iraq War level conspiratorial histrionics. All I have to say is: prove it.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Thank goodness if true.

Has no relation to the Trump-Russia scandal though.

It doesn't Glenn Greenwald is a Putin kiss ass hack who like Assange wants to protect Trump until he does irreversable damage to the U.S.

That's some Iraq War level conspiratorial histrionics. All I have to say is: prove it.

Prove they are Putin hacks? Well that's easy Putin runs a blatent corrupt murderous regime yet they never dump any of his state secrets or attempt gets their hands on state secrets to dump. The part about protecting Trump? That's just the conclusion I've drawn for the motivation they have got time and time again going after Mueller, media figures critical of Trump, and Clinton donors as being far left I doubt it's due to ideological agreement and with our IC reports that Russia wanted Trump in due to being a bomb throwing idiot it seems only logical to drawn that same conclusion for Assamge and Glenn

[Ban my account ffs!]

Wars and rumors of wars.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Yes, the federal officials appointed by Donald Trump are totally unbiased in this matter. Of course they are. You are nothing but a deranged leftist hack.

[MasterJedi]

You know this was Trump telling everyone to heel and cover everything up that was already announced, right?

[136or142]

Yes, the federal officials appointed by Donald Trump are totally unbiased in this matter. Of course they are. You are nothing but a deranged leftist hack.

I would actually suspect the people at the Department of Homeland Security who announced this are career employees, not Trump appointed hacks.

[KingSweden]

JA running interference for Russia is really not a good look.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Yes, the federal officials appointed by Donald Trump are totally unbiased in this matter. Of course they are. You are nothing but a deranged leftist hack.

I would actually suspect the people at the Department of Homeland Security who announced this are career employees, not Trump appointed hacks.

They were 'just following orders'

[BudgieForce]

JA running interference for Russia is really not a good look.

I knew the right wanted to plug their ears and pretend like theirs no Russia problem but its shocking to see some on the left doing the same.

[Hindsight was 2020]

JA running interference for Russia is really not a good look.

I knew the right wanted to plug their ears and pretend like theirs no Russia problem but its shocking to see some on the left doing the same.

Those people seem to be ones felt Bernie was cheated and see the DNC hack as "exposing corruption" thus were it came from and it's motivations behind it don't matter

[DrScholl]

Now all Trump has to do is fire Mueller and you all will be in the clear! Yay! /sarc

[KingSweden]

JA running interference for Russia is really not a good look.

I knew the right wanted to plug their ears and pretend like theirs no Russia problem but its shocking to see some on the left doing the same.

It's depressing. Also almost invariably Greenwald fans, not coincidentally. Horseshoe theory in practice

[Yank2133]

JA running interference for Russia is really not a good look.

I knew the right wanted to plug their ears and pretend like theirs no Russia problem but its shocking to see some on the left doing the same.

Not really.

A lot of lefties truly want to buy the narrative that the election of Trump was the rejection of Clinton neoliberalism (which is just lol....).

Russia meddling and perhaps impacting the election hurts that talking point.

[JA]

JA running interference for Russia is really not a good look.

I knew the right wanted to plug their ears and pretend like theirs no Russia problem but its shocking to see some on the left doing the same.

It's depressing. Also almost invariably Greenwald fans, not coincidentally. Horseshoe theory in practice

Nothing seems to get liberals and "muh moderates" all riled up quite like the mere mention of Russia.  If anyone had bothered to read the article (did anyone?) they would've seen Greenwald clearly saying this does not mean that other Trump-Russia and Russian election controversies are false or that there isn't more to the overall story. What he said is that the media, which has a history of lying, distorting, and being forced to retract stories pertaining to Russia, seem desperate to push any story that furthers the narrative they like, even if it comes at the cost of journalistic integrity. And, equally important, that people, as exemplified by the reaction on Atlas thus far, are entirely hostile to any skepticism of any allegation (even if unsubstantiated) about Russia.

You guys are so desperate for any dirt on Trump/Russia that you'll believe almost anything and have quickly adopted a Russophobic position on all issues. Again, that doesn't mean Russia didn't interfere and it doesn't mean Trump didn't work with Russia, but it is about the kind of crazed obsession you guys display on this topic. I don't know about you guys, but whenever all the old warmongers start beating a drum against another country it throws up a lot of red flags for me.

[heatcharger]

Sad to see Jacobin and fellow leftists devolve into meme warfare and "triggering libtards". Horseshoe theory at work.

[JA]

Sad to see Jacobin and fellow leftists devolve into meme warfare and "triggering libtards". Horseshoe theory at work.

Who's "triggering libtards"? You folks need to get a grip on reality and quit being drama queens. Sheesh.

[heatcharger]

I absolutely love how I seem to really get under the skin of Democrats like you. It tells me I must be doing something right.

[JA]

I absolutely love how I seem to really get under the skin of Democrats like you. It tells me I must be doing something right.

And? I do enjoy getting under the skin of Democrats like the one to whom I was replying; that doesn't mean all or even most Democrats, which should be pretty obvious. If you're a Democrat like that person, then I'm glad to get under your skin as well. However, that pertained specifically to class-related issues, since they alleged I'm a "class warrior." I'm not sure how that equates me in this situation supposedly wanting to "trigger libtards."

[ProudModerate2]

This is a "major Russia story" ?
LOL.
NOT !

[KingSweden]

JA running interference for Russia is really not a good look.

I knew the right wanted to plug their ears and pretend like theirs no Russia problem but its shocking to see some on the left doing the same.

It's depressing. Also almost invariably Greenwald fans, not coincidentally. Horseshoe theory in practice

Nothing seems to get liberals and "muh moderates" all riled up quite like the mere mention of Russia.  If anyone had bothered to read the article (did anyone?) they would've seen Greenwald clearly saying this does not mean that other Trump-Russia and Russian election controversies are false or that there isn't more to the overall story. What he said is that the media, which has a history of lying, distorting, and being forced to retract stories pertaining to Russia, seem desperate to push any story that furthers the narrative they like, even if it comes at the cost of journalistic integrity. And, equally important, that people, as exemplified by the reaction on Atlas thus far, are entirely hostile to any skepticism of any allegation (even if unsubstantiated) about Russia.

You guys are so desperate for any dirt on Trump/Russia that you'll believe almost anything and have quickly adopted a Russophobic position on all issues. Again, that doesn't mean Russia didn't interfere and it doesn't mean Trump didn't work with Russia, but it is about the kind of crazed obsession you guys display on this topic. I don't know about you guys, but whenever all the old warmongers start beating a drum against another country it throws up a lot of red flags for me.

Except the idea that Russia hacked any states voting rolls (or worse, voting machines) has been discredited tinfoil stuff for ages, the kind of thing even cranks like Louise Mensch won't indulge. By saying "yet another major Russia story falls apart" you're trying to equate whatever the hell this crap is with the money trail/collusion/botfarm story, and your outraged response suggests a nerve was hit.

Which is too bad since you're a good poster otherwise and I like you, fwiw. But like I said - Russia is unequivocally stirring sh*t in the West to weaken it and strengthen its own position, and tangentially defending that is not a good look

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

No one is trying to start a war with Russia. Just sanction them to he'll to where its a starved husk of its former self that can't do sh!t like that again or f uck around with Ukraine and the Baltics.

[bilaps]

Thank goodness if true.

Has no relation to the Trump-Russia scandal though.

It doesn't Glenn Greenwald is a Putin kiss ass hack who like Assange wants to protect Trump until he does irreversable damage to the U.S.

Greenwald is a journalist.

But in your view journalists are Maddow, Mitchell, Cooper, Lemon etc. So if they're journalists I can see Greenwald not making a list.