$1.5 Trillion GOP Tax Cut Thread

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

House coming into session at the top of the hour. At 6:30 ET, vote on procedural motion to reject the senate amendment and go to conference. At 8:00 ET, vote on a democratic motion to change the instructions for the committee.

Committee? Or conference?

committee = conference. I'll be using the terms interchangeably.

[Torie]

There are going to be any number of glitches like this. This is why you don't write massive bills like this.

Indeed. Thus the glitches with Obamacare, although there the Dems were jammed when they lost their 60th vote at an inopportune time. I always in local politics urge our alderpersons to vote no when complex things are rushed, and then I need to go in and try to clean things up. Folks are beginning to listen to me. Politics trumps good policy all too often these days, even given an ideological perspective. At least make the internal mechanisms work well, so that the anticipated results are realized.

[Antonio the Sixth]

In their rush to pass this scam, the Senate GOP didn't realize they defacto repealed literally every corporate deduction: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/senate-gop-accidentally-killed-all-corporate-tax-deductions.html

....amazing. Just amazing.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Vote starting. 17-6 party line so far.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

56-23, with 1 republican against going to conference.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

117-64, with 2 republicans against going to conference.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

165-101. 1 Democrat in favor of going to conference, 3 Republicans Against

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

187-141. The 1 Democrat switched over to Nay. Party-line except for 9 republicans currently.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Rs currently losing 200-201. 16 Republican No Votes.

[GAKas]

So can someone ELI5 what happens if this goes to conference? Or what happens if this motion is shot down?

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Tied at 202, 17 Republican No Votes.

[Dr. Arch]

So can someone ELI5 what happens if this goes to conference? Or what happens if this motion is shot down?

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Now it's in the clear. 209-202

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Republican defections down from 17 to 12. 215-197.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Motion passes 222-192. Will post vote summary when available.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

After a ton of last minute whipping, there were still 7 republican defections:

Amash
Donovan
King (NY)
Jones
LoBiondo
Smith (NJ)
Zeldin

The following members did not vote:

Beatty
Bishop (UT)
Bridenstine
Buchanan
Conyers
Curtis
Flores
Gutiérrez
Kennedy
Kihuen
Loebsack
Love
Pocan
Quigley
Renacci
Rokita
Scalise
Stewart
Walz

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll653.xml

[Sestak]

Motion passes 222-192. Will post vote summary when available.

This is on rejection of McConnell's manager only? Or is it both that and agreeing to go to conference?

Also, wow, it looked like they might not have had it for a second there.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Motion passes 222-192. Will post vote summary when available.

This is on rejection of McConnell's manager only? Or is it both that and agreeing to go to conference?

Also, wow, it looked like they might not have had it for a second there.

Both.

[Torie]

I thought my congressman Faso was against this bill. Now he voted to move it along? What happened?

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

I thought my congressman Faso was against this bill. Now he voted to move it along? What happened?

Due to a bunch of republicans being absent, they had to do some last minute whipping right on the house floor, and the number of defections dropped from 17 to 7 during that time. Also keep in mind that this is just a procedural motion, it's not uncommon for those in the President's party to vote to "move the process along", while still casting a (worthless) no vote on final passage.

[Torie]

I thought my congressman Faso was against this bill. Now he voted to move it along? What happened?

Due to a bunch of republicans being absent, they had to do some last minute whipping right on the house floor, and the number of defections dropped from 17 to 7 during that time. Also keep in mind that this is just a procedural motion, it's not uncommon for those in the President's party to vote to "move the process along", while still casting a (worthless) no vote on final passage.

Good point. Sometimes the mere "procedural" vote is where the rubber meets the road, but it is something politicians try to hide behind when under political stress.

[junior chįmp]

I thought my congressman Faso was against this bill. Now he voted to move it along? What happened?

GOP wants to get spanked in 2018 by the Democrats just like David Vitter did by the prostitute

Upstate GOP is finished. Paul Ryan cancelled fundraisers for House GOPers who voted against the tax bill

[Sestak]

Many NY/NJers voting No because they don't want to raise taxes on their constituents.

And then there's Jones and Amash, voting no because...they're Jones and Amash.

[Sestak]

Hey Wulfric, what exactly are the 'instructions' in the Dem motion?

[Sestak]

Many NY/NJers voting No because they don't want to raise taxes on their constituents.

And then there's Jones and Amash, voting no because...they're Jones and Amash.

NYers and NJians aside from the sickos who apparently want to be bent over and spanked like Frelighuysen, Lance, Katko, Fascist Faso, Tenney and MacArthur

don't forget all the CAians who cast symbolic "no" votes too.