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« on: October 03, 2017, 10:25:29 PM »

In the USA
When one party holds the White House and the other party holds the majority of the two houses in the Congress, is the government 1/2 one party, 1/2 the other party, or is it almost like the ideology of the party holding the White House?

In Germany
Was the CDU/CSU-SPD grand coalitions (1965-1969, 2005-2009, 2013-2017) a 1/2 CDU/CSU 1/2 SPD governments, or almost like a CDU/CSU government?

In France
Was the cohabitation governments (1986-1988, 1993-1995, 1997-2002) a 1/2 1/2 government, a government following the ideology of the party of the presidente or a government following the ideology of the party of the prime minister?
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2017, 06:38:34 AM »

Cohabitation mostly followed the ideology of the PM. Chirac and Balladur were able to push through right-wing policies during their cohabitation periods and Jospin introduced the 35 hour work week.

In systems like the German or Dutch system you basically negotiate a coalition agreement right after the elections. Either you trade off complete issues or you come up with a compromise on everything. In the Netherlands the centre-right VVD and the Social Democratic PvdA were in government from 2012-2017 and they choose to mostly trade off issues. The PvdA got their way on income redistribution while the VVD got their way on spending cuts, labour market reforms and a stricter immigration policy. When the VVD started complaining about illegal refugees the PvdA basically bought them off with a small tax cut. VVD and PvdA were almost as big, and we always have coalition governments (currently we've been negotiating on a 4 party coalition since March). PvdA dropped from 24% in 2012 to 6% in 2017 btw, the VVD dropped from 27% to 22%. Being a junior partner in a coalition usually means losing a lot of votes the next election, as you're bound to be less visible than the party delivering the PM (and this especially is true for grand coalitions between the centre-right and the centre-left). Even then the PvdA loss was dramatic.

The CDU/CSU-SPD government was pretty even as far as I know, despite CDU/CSU being much bigger than the SPD. The SPD got their way on a lot of social welfare policies including the minimum wage (something CDU/CSU mostly opposed), while CDU/CSU were able to block tax increases on higher earners (something the SPD promised during the 2013 elections).

In the US a divided government currently basically means complete gridlock. In the past it depended on the circumstances, but I'm not really an expert on that.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2017, 08:05:35 AM »

The CDU/CSU-SPD government was pretty even as far as I know, despite CDU/CSU being much bigger than the SPD. The SPD got their way on a lot of social welfare policies including the minimum wage (something CDU/CSU mostly opposed), while CDU/CSU were able to block tax increases on higher earners (something the SPD promised during the 2013 elections).

That's alot to do with Merkel though, as much as the SPD, and her own tactic on realising when a policy is popular with the public and stealing it from the party that originally proposed it. The minimum wage and nuclear power are classic examples of her moving into the SPD and Greens' territory respectively
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2017, 04:20:22 AM »

In the USA
When one party holds the White House and the other party holds the majority of the two houses in the Congress, is the government 1/2 one party, 1/2 the other party, or is it almost like the ideology of the party holding the White House?

For the US nationally, I think history is the guide. The party holding both Houses of Congress has primary control over the domestic agenda, or at least policy is done on their terms. When you look at Eisenhower and Nixon/Ford, the Democrats were in charge of domestic policy. The opposite goes for when Clinton was faced with a Republican Congress. His 1996 State of the Union was in deference to a new political paradigm. For the most part, foreign policy has largely been left to the President (and some of those appointed to particular positions). That's not to say there haven't been instances where Congress has tried to reign in the President.

As far as state government goes, the Legislature tells you the true nature of the state (discounting partisan gerrymandering), not the Governor. The tendency of Massachusetts to elect Republican Governors doesn't tell you much about the state. The fact that it routinely sends a massive Democratic Supermajority to the legislature tells you much more. States that are safe for one party will generally have a legislature that reflects that fact. Gubernatorial elections can often be about personalities and perceived checks and balances (I say perceived because many states have supermajorities that can easily override a veto). It could be argued that any state could elect of a governor of either party in theory (including the recent past). You cannot argue that any state could elect a legislative majority of either party. It's not possible for Republicans to win control of the Massachusetts General Court, nor is it possible for Democrats to win control of the Utah State Legislature. If we had parliamentary governments across the country, I think many states would've easily exceeded pre-2015 Alberta for one-party control.
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