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Italy
 
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Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan
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« on: October 04, 2017, 12:50:14 PM »

Everyone probably here is interested in politics and sometimes wonder on whom he would vote while living in some other countries. Today I was again thinking animal-rights party created by Berlusconi about which he thinks that will get 20% in next elections and only conclusions I had that voting on anyone here is just complete waste of time. But there are also in Europe other countries like that - I wonder which political scene in Europe is the worst from those countries.
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2017, 01:42:05 PM »

Argumentation of choice would be also nice, I would like to know why you chose such option - especially in case of Poland.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2017, 01:45:40 PM »

Well Poland lacks any sort of functioning left wing party, so it's a pretty obvious choice.

Hungary also because Orban and Jobbik...
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2017, 01:48:39 PM »

Well Poland lacks any sort of functioning left wing party, so it's a pretty obvious choice.

This is obviously me reasoning as well.
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2017, 01:49:12 PM »

Well Poland lacks any sort of functioning left wing party, so it's a pretty obvious choice.

Well there are actually a lot of functioning left wing parties, but they are out of parliament. Still they are present on local level.
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2017, 01:54:15 PM »

I think Hungary is the best choice. It has the same problems Poland does, only worse. The BETTER viable Hungarian party is the one led by an authoritarian strongman; at least he's not a literal Nazi. Whatever you might think of Poland's two major parties, I don't think either of them could be compared to Jobbik.
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2017, 03:10:29 PM »

Other - UK.

The Tories are a zombie nightmare that has zero right to govern but cannot be removed. Labour is running on the hope and prayer that the Tories somehow screw up badly enough to initiate yet another election before Corbyn gets too old. The Lib Dems are down for a generation and UKIP still exists.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2017, 03:49:12 PM »

The country in which police are fighting police wins by default.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2017, 04:32:34 AM »
« Edited: October 05, 2017, 04:34:40 AM by Lechasseur »

Greece, followed by Sweden

My order out of the countries listed, from most to least depressing:

1. Greece
2. Belgium
3. Italy
4. Romania
5. Poland
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2017, 04:26:19 PM »

Other - UK.

The Tories are a zombie nightmare that has zero right to govern but cannot be removed. Labour is running on the hope and prayer that the Tories somehow screw up badly enough to initiate yet another election before Corbyn gets too old. The Lib Dems are down for a generation and UKIP still exists.

I also wondered why the UK wasn't an explicit option here, but figure now that it isn't so much depressing as it is a cause for schadenfreude (as least to those outside the country).
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2017, 07:01:10 PM »

Other - UK.

The Tories are a zombie nightmare that has zero right to govern but cannot be removed. Labour is running on the hope and prayer that the Tories somehow screw up badly enough to initiate yet another election before Corbyn gets too old. The Lib Dems are down for a generation and UKIP still exists.

I also wondered why the UK wasn't an explicit option here, but figure now that it isn't so much depressing as it is a cause for schadenfreude (as least to those outside the country).


UK isn't even in 20% as bad as all mentioned before.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2017, 04:48:56 PM »

Other. Russia. No functioning opposition
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2017, 04:59:44 PM »

I know this make break the consensus, but I would say UK due to Labour's strength.  I have nothing against social democratic parties winning, but Corbyn is much more of your hard left like SYRIZA in Greece, Podemos in Spain, Left Front in France and as we saw in Latin America the hard left can be quite dangerous and destabilizing if they win.  SYRIZA winning in Greece was largely ignored as Greece is a basket case, but I feel a Corbyn win could embolden social democratic parties (which are struggling in much of Europe) to take a sharp turn to the left.  Also Left-Green Movement in Iceland is worrisome too.  I believe both the hard left and hard right are bad and it would best if they were much weaker.  The centre may have its issues but generally centre-left to centre-right works best in the long run.  Interestingly enough Steve Bannon predicted centrist politics was dead and that the future is Corbyn like politics on the left and Trump like on the right with the traditional social democratic and moderate conservative withering away, so lets hope he is wrong on this count.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2017, 05:11:05 PM »
« Edited: October 12, 2017, 05:13:39 PM by Çråbçæk »

I think Greece is because it's the only country in the EU where electoral and parliamentary politics has been rendered so entirely irrelevant by circumstances.

(This is excluding non EU countries like Russia, Belarus, Bosnia, Serbia and Turkey obviously)
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2017, 05:32:34 PM »

Belarus, being a dictatorship.

Of EU countries, Hungary.
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2017, 11:24:40 PM »

Hungary is the most depressing within the EU.

If we're including extra-EU countries, Belarus I suppose is in a sense more depressing, but the expectations are much lower. What makes Hungary so depressing is that it was a thriving democracy not long ago.
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2017, 10:21:18 AM »

Hungary is the most depressing within the EU.

If we're including extra-EU countries, Belarus I suppose is in a sense more depressing, but the expectations are much lower. What makes Hungary so depressing is that it was a thriving democracy not long ago.

To be fair isn't Hungary still a democracy, just one where the largest party by far is quite authoritarian and the 2nd largest are literal neo-nazis?

But yeah out of EU countries Hungary is the worst.
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