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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2017, 12:46:23 AM »


I’ll third it.
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2017, 02:46:30 AM »

What's happening here?  The election is tomorrow.
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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2017, 02:50:05 AM »

Let's just nominate everybody by acclamation or something because obviously this party needs to gets it sh!t together, and fast.

I nominate myself for Vice Chair.
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« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2017, 02:54:24 AM »

I second the nomination.
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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2017, 06:32:16 AM »

Thirding Scott's self-nomination, provided Truman doesn't run again.
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« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2017, 05:25:06 PM »

Seconding the nomination of Scott for Deputy Chair.
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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2017, 06:30:28 PM »

*enters the Convention fashionably late

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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2017, 10:46:30 PM »

Sorry about this, been very busy with the same stuff that’s been keeping me from actually being involved with this game.

Nominations are, of course, closed. I think we can elect Griff and Scott by acclamation, but if any of you guys want to do a ballot for some reason I guess we could.
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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2017, 09:29:53 PM »

Okay, since Griff and Scott are the only candidates who have accepted nominations, I'm going to go ahead and declare them officially elected.

I'll quit this job with the same words I uttered when I first took it: "This was probably a bad idea."
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« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2017, 12:25:30 AM »

Okay, since Griff and Scott are the only candidates who have accepted nominations, I'm going to go ahead and declare them officially elected.

I'll quit this job with the same words I uttered when I first took it: "This was probably a bad idea."

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« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2017, 11:46:25 AM »

Careful—one might almost get the impression that regional reduction hurt the game. Cheesy
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« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2017, 12:26:45 AM »

Careful—one might almost get the impression that regional reduction hurt the game. Cheesy

An Anti-Consolidation Laborite.

Now I have seen it it all. Tongue
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« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2017, 09:43:19 PM »

So, uh, I guess we're right back in #LaborInDisarray. Third Place in the Presidential Election, lost the house, and on a cliffhanger in the Lincoln Senate Race.
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« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2017, 10:37:09 PM »

So, uh, I guess we're right back in #LaborInDisarray. Third Place in the Presidential Election, lost the house, and on a cliffhanger in the Lincoln Senate Race.

Except that - at least under the duration of my tenure - we won everything within reason. I came into the role of Chair beginning on Friday:

  • We knew realistically we couldn't win the presidential, so many of us (including our nominee) decided to opt out of participation in the final round and instead push Lumine into it. Mission Accomplished.
  • Sadly, we did only have 4 candidates for House and I did not arrive in time to recruit a fifth one, but all of our candidates won their seats. Mission Accomplished.
  • Our ally Siren won a very comfortable Socialist Majority in Fremont. Mission Accomplished.
  • We swept the elections and won all targeted offices in Lincoln. Mission Accomplished.
  • And I am very confident that we will also seal the deal on 20RP12's re-election to the Senate in Lincoln. Mission Will Be Accomplished.

All in all, we made the best of a bad situation this weekend and won in every way in which we could. Don't worry: absolute victories are forthcoming!



Wulfric's Deeply Disturbing and Blatantly Biased comments notwithstanding, I look forward to finishing this convention in the coming days and outlining the beginnings of a Glorious Vision for the Labor Party, to continue sporting victories and pushing back against the Personality Cultists and Demagogues as a united front!
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« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2017, 11:14:34 PM »

- Many of Truman's votes would have been exhausted or gone to Fthagn in a hypothetical Lumine vs. Fthagn final round. It was clear at the time you started the strategy that you were likely to lose the presidency regardless of whether Truman or Lumine was the second place candidate. So, no, you didn't "strategically try to set up a win for someone who wasn't Fthagn" - you just humiliated the party more by sending your own nominee into third place. Also, don't try and pretend that Lumine is even remotely ideologically coherent with the Labor Party. Her VP choice was, yes, but she is not.  You criticize the federalists all the time for letting "liberals" like Ted Bessell and Fthagn run under their banner in certain races, but now you've essentially done the same by quasi-endorsing Lumine. You should really just stop being hypocritical.

- I don't consider the fact that your candidates beat the little-known independent Thumb21 to be a particularly noteworthy accomplishment, but whatever.

- A pile of Garbage with "Labor" or "Peace Party" next to its name would win in Fremont, so not a noteworthy accomplishment. This is like the republicans cheering because they held a Senate Seat in Nebraska, or the Democrats cheering because they held a senate seat in California  - Congratulations, you won where the party always wins.

- Fair Point on Lincoln, though I'd advise you to not count your chickens before they hatch on that Senate Race. Tongue
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« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2017, 11:26:08 PM »

Wulfric you can't even read based off of your first paragraph, so please stop
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« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2017, 11:30:31 PM »

Wulfric you can't even read based off of your first paragraph, so please stop

Oh, so you're not even going to try to formulate a response? I'll just take that as you admitting I'm right. And my first paragraph can be effectively summarized as: Pushing Lumine into second place served no purpose. Lumine doesn't agree with you politically, and wasn't going to win regardless.
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« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2017, 11:39:43 PM »

Wulfric you can't even read based off of your first paragraph, so please stop

Oh, so you're not even going to try to formulate a response? I'll just take that as you admitting I'm right. And my first paragraph can be effectively summarized as: Pushing Lumine into second place served no purpose. Lumine doesn't agree with you politically, and wasn't going to win regardless.

Wulfric, I know you're dazed and confused right now, but please keep it together. Read carefully. Even though you're attacking me right now, I'll always be grateful to you for voting for this socialist to be your President.
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« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2017, 11:49:43 PM »

Wulfric you can't even read based off of your first paragraph, so please stop

Oh, so you're not even going to try to formulate a response? I'll just take that as you admitting I'm right. And my first paragraph can be effectively summarized as: Pushing Lumine into second place served no purpose. Lumine doesn't agree with you politically, and wasn't going to win regardless.

Wulfric, I know you're dazed and confused right now, but please keep it together. Read carefully. Even though you're attacking me right now, I'll always be grateful to you for voting for this socialist to be your President.

Your sentence says you pushed Lumine into the final round because your party couldn't win. So there are 3 possibilities:

1. You thought Lumine could win - as Encke and myself have explained, this is a ridiculous thing to think, even at the point in time you launched the strategy.

2. You wanted the "embarrassment of losing" to be pushed onto Lumine - Okay, but I'd argue placing third is even more of an embarrassment than placing second.

3. You wanted to punish Truman for losing - Okay, but then you should come out and say that directly.
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« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2017, 12:11:39 AM »


At least two of those scenarios are ridiculous.

Or maybe...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYtjpIwamos

Anyway, Wulfric, as a fellow Socialist, you either need to join the Labor Party or leave us be - very rude otherwise to be stringing us on!
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« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2017, 12:16:55 AM »

So you did it as a total joke? Well then you're even more of a joke of a party chair. Call me old-fashioned, but I think elections should be viewed in strictly serious terms.

I stand by my vote for you for President two years ago because you were the right person for the challenging process of crafting a new Atlasian Constitution. But it appears you've had an unfortunate fall from grace since.
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« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2017, 12:18:22 AM »

I have always liked wulfric. He's always so hilarious
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« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2017, 05:42:11 PM »

[BYL] We'll now open up discussion for any potential revisions to our by-laws (which have certainly gotten bigger over the years!).

Here is the current version of the by-laws:

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« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2017, 05:42:44 PM »

ARTICLE V. VOTING
Section 1. All members of the Labor Party who were registered with the Census Bureau as such at least 7 days before the opening of the Convention are eligible to vote in primary elections and elections for Chair and Deputy Chair. The seven day registration requirement does not apply to persons who first registered as a citizen fewer than seven days before the opening of the Convention.

Section 2. Any elected Senator or Representative who is either (a) a registered member of the Labor Party since before the most recent election for the House of Representatives; or (b) an affiliated independent may vote in elections for Congressional Leader.

Section 3. In order to be considered an “affiliated independent” for the purposes of Section 2 of this Article, the Senator or Representative seeking that designation must publicly and explicitly pledge to support the eventual Congressional Leader of the Labor Party in the election for Speaker of the House of Representatives (if they are eligible to vote in that election) and to support the majority of the Labor program as a member of Congress. The Chair may deny an applicant the status of an “affiliated independent” at their discretion.

Section 4. Voting in primary elections, and elections for the National Committee, will proceed in the following manner:
      (a) All those being eligible to vote in the election will mark their ballot with an “X” next to the name of the candidate they wish to vote for. In primary elections for the House of Representatives, electors may vote for up to five candidates; in primary elections for regional legislature, electors may vote for up to a number of candidates equal to the number of seats for election.
      (b) If, at the expiration of the voting period, no candidate has a majority of the ballots cast, a 48 hour runoff election will be held between the two top finishers.
      (c) In the event that three or more candidates tie for first place, or two or more candidates tie for second place, then the tied candidates will all be included on the ballot and the runoff election will be by Single Transferable Vote.
      (d) A candidate may choose to have their name removed from the runoff ballot by posting their explicit intention to concede in the thread where the election is being held. If the concession is posted after the commencement of the runoff, all preferences for that candidate will be discounted.
      (d) If only two candidates qualify for the runoff, the manner of voting will be the same as prescribed by clause (a).

ARTICLE VI. EXPULSION
Section 1. Members whose actions are judged inappropriate or unbecoming to the party may be expelled by a majority of voting membership at the motion of two persons being eligible to vote in party elections under Article V.1 of these bylaws.
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« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2017, 08:26:36 PM »
« Edited: October 25, 2017, 08:29:11 PM by Dwarven Dragon »

I humbly suggest that the Labor party adopt the following amendment to Article V of the bylaws, based on recent events:

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