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« on: October 04, 2017, 11:35:51 PM »

1-10. ten being perfect.

Leadership -
Temperament -
Speaking Skills -
Disaster Management -
Integrity -
Honesty -
Charisma -
Personable -

Average -
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2017, 12:01:19 AM »

1-10. ten being perfect.

Leadership - 2
Temperament - 1
Speaking Skills - 1
Disaster Management - 1
Integrity - 1
Honesty - 1
Charisma - 9
Personable - 2
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2017, 12:17:51 AM »
« Edited: October 05, 2017, 12:27:42 AM by Ghost of Ruin »

Leadership - 1
Temperament - 0
Speaking Skills -  1
Disaster Management - 1
Integrity - 0
Honesty - i (imaginary)
Charisma - 3 (he has always come across to me as a greedy slimeball, but apparently that has some appeal with certain demographics)
Personable - 1

The Force - 10 (it can have a strong influence on the weak-minded)

Average -

Trump is the ultimate example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Combined with a real talent for base hucksterism, and a huge segment of American voters who are suffering, scared, stupid, and ignorant (not all through their own fault, either) and it gives us political perfect storm that threatens to destroy our democracy.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2017, 12:44:16 AM »

Leadership - 1
Temperament - 1
Speaking Skills - 2
Disaster Management - 1
Integrity - non-existent
Honesty - 1
Charisma - 5
Personable - 1
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2017, 01:12:23 AM »

"10" is for FDR.

Leadership -    1
Temperament -  1
Speaking Skills -  1
Disaster Management - 2
Integrity - 1
Honesty - 1
Charisma - 5
Personable - 3

Obama

Leadership - 6
Temperament - 9
Speaking Skills - 7
Disaster Management - 10
Integrity - 10
Honesty - 10
Charisma -  6
Personable - 6
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2017, 02:47:59 AM »

Leadership - 1
Temperament - 1
Speaking Skills - 0
Disaster Management - 3
Integrity - 1
Honesty - 1
Charisma - 7
Personable - 2
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2017, 04:07:13 AM »

"10" is for FDR.

Leadership -    1
Temperament -  1
Speaking Skills -  1
Disaster Management - 2
Integrity - 1
Honesty - 1
Charisma - 5
Personable - 3

Obama

Leadership - 6
Temperament - 9
Speaking Skills - 7
Disaster Management - 10
Integrity - 10
Honesty - 10
Charisma -  6
Personable - 6
I agree with most of your ratings, but how on earth did Obama only get a "7" on speaking skills. He's the best public speaker I have EVER seen. Not as great outside of script, but NOBODY gives a teleprompter speech like Obama. Bill Clinton was better when going off script though.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2017, 05:06:01 AM »

Leadership - 1
Temperament - 1
Speaking Skills - 2
Disaster Management -2
Integrity - 1
Honesty - 1
Charisma - 5
Personable - 5

Average - 2.25

I'll also grade Obama like someone did before:

Leadership - 7
Temperament - 9
Speaking Skills - 10
Disaster Management - 9
Integrity - 10
Honesty - 7
Charisma - 10
Personable - 8

Average - 8.75
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2017, 08:55:51 AM »

Leadership - 1 (divisive, treats his people very bad)
Temperament - 1
Speaking Skills - 6 (good free speeches, not so well from teleprompter)
Disaster Management - 2
Integrity - 1
Honesty - 1
Charisma - 8
Personable - 1

Average - 2.63
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2017, 08:59:13 AM »

Leadership - 10
Temperament - 10
Speaking Skills - 10
Disaster Management - 10
Integrity - 10
Honesty - 10
Charisma - 10
Personable - 10

Average - 10
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2017, 09:04:56 AM »

Leadership - 10
Temperament - 10
Speaking Skills - 10
Disaster Management - 10
Integrity - 10
Honesty - 10
Charisma - 10
Personable - 10

Average - 10

Why not 11? Heretic!
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2017, 09:06:33 AM »

Leadership - 3
Temperament - 1 (paranoid, nepotistic, impulsive, and fickle)
Speaking Skills - 3
Disaster Management - 3
Integrity - 2
Honesty - 4 (I don't think most of his lies are intentional; most being things he just says without thought)
Charisma - 7
Personable - 1 (he intentionally cultivates a non-personable image of himself and his name)

Average- 3 even
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2017, 09:07:43 AM »

Leadership - 1
Temperament - 0
Speaking Skills - 1
Disaster Management - 2
Integrity - 0
Honesty - 0
Charisma - 5
Personable - 1

Average - 1.25
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2017, 11:00:29 AM »

Leadership -1
Temperament - 1
Speaking Skills - 3
Disaster Management -1
Integrity - 1
Honesty - 2
Charisma - 5
Personable - 4

Average - 2.25

I'll also grade Obama like someone did before:

Leadership - 4
Temperament - 9
Speaking Skills - 10
Disaster Management - 8
Integrity - 10
Honesty - 5
Charisma - 7
Personable - 8

Average - 6.25
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2017, 11:04:11 AM »

Leadership - 2
Temperament - 1
Speaking Skills -  2
Disaster Management - 1
Integrity - 1
Honesty - 1
Charisma - 7
Personable - 2

Average - 2.125
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2017, 11:13:45 AM »

Trump:

Leadership - 3
Temperament - 1 (not worthy of 1 really)
Speaking Skills -  3
Disaster Management - 1
Integrity - 1 (not worthy of 1 really)
Honesty - 1 (not worthy of 1 really)
Charisma - 5
Personable - 1

Average : 2
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2017, 12:40:28 PM »

Leadership - 2
Temperament - 1
Speaking Skills - 4
Disaster Management - 2
Integrity - 1
Honesty - 2 (well, he does at least sometimes genuinely tell us what he's thinking)
Charisma - 7
Personable - 2
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2017, 01:31:59 PM »

TRUMP:

Leadership - 1
Temperament - 1
Speaking Skills - 2
Disaster Management -1
Integrity - 1
Honesty - 1
Charisma - 5
Personable - 2

Average - 1.75


OBAMA:

Leadership - 6 (high on moral leadership, low on political leadership)
Temperament - 10
Speaking Skills - 10
Disaster Management - 10 (comforter in chief)
Integrity - 10
Honesty - 8 (generally about as honest as politicans get, but gets point deducted from claiming to be against same sex marriages before 2012, when he clearly wasn't)
Charisma - 10 (rock star president)
Personable - 7

Average - 8.88
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2017, 02:08:31 PM »
« Edited: October 05, 2017, 02:11:19 PM by Jacobin American »

Trump

Leadership - 1
Temperament - 1
Speaking Skills - 2
Disaster Management - 1
Integrity - 1
Honesty - 1
Charisma - 5
Personable - 1

Average - 1.63

Obama

Leadership - 4
Temperament - 10
Speaking Skills - 9
Disaster Management - 8
Integrity - 9
Honesty - 5
Charisma - 7
Personable - 6

Average - 7.25
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2017, 02:17:05 PM »

"10" is for FDR.

Leadership -    1
Temperament -  1
Speaking Skills -  1
Disaster Management - 2
Integrity - 1
Honesty - 1
Charisma - 5
Personable - 3

Obama

Leadership - 6
Temperament - 9
Speaking Skills - 7
Disaster Management - 10
Integrity - 10
Honesty - 10
Charisma -  6
Personable - 6
I agree with most of your ratings, but how on earth did Obama only get a "7" on speaking skills. He's the best public speaker I have EVER seen. Not as great outside of script, but NOBODY gives a teleprompter speech like Obama. Bill Clinton was better when going off script though.

I have no problem with the Teleprompter speeches. So long as he edited them, they are as valid as off-the-cuff speeches, as well as better.

The problem as a speaker is that he did not win people over. With his overall talents he should have won a landslide in 2012 and not had the Congressional losses that his Party endured in 2010 and 2014.

Obama is not FDR, but he is very good. Within four years people will be ready to vote for another President who has much the same qualities.
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