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« on: October 05, 2017, 02:05:33 PM »


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Back on July 31st, I made a post on Atlas that cited an article that predicted Trump would do something like this. The explanation for why he'd pursue this is even more unsettling.
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2017, 02:25:32 PM »

Good. The Iranians can’t be trusted.
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2017, 02:26:05 PM »

Let's call this bs out he is doing this not because Iran has violated any terms but because he wants to feed the islamaphobes in his base  
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2017, 02:29:53 PM »


Except they're literally adhering to the terms of the deal.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2017, 02:33:26 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2017, 02:36:30 PM »


Translation: "Those dirty Jewish foreigners are the ones who really control America's foreign policy!"

As for the OP, this is obviously a terrible decision that makes both Israel and the U.S. less safe.
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2017, 02:49:04 PM »

Catalonia ind dec on monday, north korea likely to start stuff, and then this. For the chaotic evil, next week should be delightful!
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2017, 02:58:46 PM »

Let's call this bs out he is doing this not because Iran has violated any terms but because he wants to feed the islamaphobes in his base  

He is not even doing this because of that.

He is doing it because Obama made the deal. He has no worldview outside of being against everything Obama did or stands for.

It is really pathetic.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2017, 03:01:09 PM »

Let's call this bs out he is doing this not because Iran has violated any terms but because he wants to feed the islamaphobes in his base  

He is not even doing this because of that.

He is doing it because Obama made the deal. He has no worldview outside of being against everything Obama did or stands for.

It is really pathetic.

Yep.  But at the end of the day, this is the man who America voted for...oh wait.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2017, 03:06:08 PM »

As each day passes, this clownish president looks more and more like one, big joke.
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2017, 03:06:57 PM »

As each day passes, this clownish president looks more and more like one, big joke.

A good one though
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2017, 03:08:59 PM »

Let's call this bs out he is doing this not because Iran has violated any terms but because he wants to feed the islamaphobes in his base  

He is not even doing this because of that.

He is doing it because Obama made the deal. He has no worldview outside of being against everything Obama did or stands for.

It is really pathetic.

Yep.  But at the end of the day, this is the man who America voted for...oh wait.

Well, unfortunately this is the system the US set up.

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Yup.

On top of Iran adhering to the deal, pulling out hurts US credibility (or what is left of it...) when it comes to NK.

NK has no incentive to cut a deal with this clown administration.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2017, 03:13:08 PM »

Let's call this bs out he is doing this not because Iran has violated any terms but because he wants to feed the islamaphobes in his base  

So repealing a deal with an enemy nation whose leaders call for the destruction of the US and Israel is Islamophobic?
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2017, 03:15:33 PM »

Let's call this bs out he is doing this not because Iran has violated any terms but because he wants to feed the islamaphobes in his base  

So repealing a deal with an enemy nation whose leaders call for the destruction of the US and Israel is Islamophobic?

It's idiotic and will make both Israel and America less secure.  Iran had been complying with the the terms of the agreement.  If anything, Trump's actions mean they'll probably get nuclear weapons much sooner than they otherwise would.
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2017, 03:19:35 PM »

Let's call this bs out he is doing this not because Iran has violated any terms but because he wants to feed the islamaphobes in his base  

So repealing a deal with an enemy nation whose leaders call for the destruction of the US and Israel is Islamophobic?

Unilaterally reneging on an agreement the other side is adhering to, all because of personal pettiness and appealing to the most unsavory elements of his base, is outrageously bad foreign policy, yes.
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2017, 03:25:29 PM »

Let's call this bs out he is doing this not because Iran has violated any terms but because he wants to feed the islamaphobes in his base  

So repealing a deal with an enemy nation whose leaders call for the destruction of the US and Israel is Islamophobic?

Unilaterally reneging on an agreement the other side is adhering to, all because of personal pettiness and appealing to the most unsavory elements of his base, is outrageously bad foreign policy, yes.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2017, 04:03:55 PM »
« Edited: October 05, 2017, 04:32:41 PM by Birch Bayh 2020 »

Let's call this bs out he is doing this not because Iran has violated any terms but because he wants to feed the islamaphobes in his base  

So repealing a deal with an enemy nation whose leaders call for the destruction of the US and Israel is Islamophobic?

Unilaterally reneging on an agreement the other side is adhering to, all because of personal pettiness and appealing to the most unsavory elements of his base, is outrageously bad foreign policy, yes.

Ed: not to mention, this decision will make it much more difficult to strike multilateral agreements with so-called belligerent nations, principally North Korea. This, combined with the decision on Paris is signalling to the global community that the Unites States' word is dirt and is subject to change by administration.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2017, 04:06:01 PM »

It's not in TRUMP's interest. Trump doesn't represent the country, he represents himself. Let's be really clear about what his intent is and who he really cares about.
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2017, 04:19:13 PM »

Glorious, high energy news.

Thank you, Mr. President.
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2017, 04:20:07 PM »


Jewish daughter (conversion is full Judaism) notwithstanding, Donald Trump may be the worst thing ever to happen to Judaism in America, especially should a war erupt between the USA and Iran. In such a war Israel is cooked -- literally. Trump is opposed to the deal that President Obama made with Iran because his nemesis Obama did it.

This is before I discuss any neo-Nazis, the Klan, or Islamofascists active in America. That includes the 9/11 war crimes, especially in New York City, which surely must have killed a few hundred Jews (in view of the Jews as passengers in the planes and the Twin Towers.

The Zionists know well enough to keep quiet about wars between or among Arabs and Muslims -- even abstaining on the First Gulf War.  
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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2017, 04:30:52 PM »


Ah, yes, one of the resident antisemites proves, again, that he is an antisemite.


Opposing the Iran Deal is not just a concern of American Jews or Israel, many foreign policy hawks who are not Jewish strongly oppose this deal as well.

American national security should always be a top consideration of any President and it clearly was here. This is a righteous and morally clear decision by the President.
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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2017, 04:32:23 PM »

Why do these idiots act like there aren't any other parties, including traditional US allies, to this deal?
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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2017, 04:41:15 PM »

The man is insanely hawkish. Prepare for the impending nuclear holocaust with North Korea.
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« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2017, 04:47:24 PM »

Jewish daughter (conversion is full Judaism) notwithstanding, Donald Trump may be the worst thing ever to happen to Judaism in America, especially should a war erupt between the USA and Iran. In such a war Israel is cooked -- literally.

Er what? Such a war would be great for the military balance of Israel, their largest strategic rival in the region would be snuffed out.
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« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2017, 05:01:46 PM »

Jewish daughter (conversion is full Judaism) notwithstanding, Donald Trump may be the worst thing ever to happen to Judaism in America, especially should a war erupt between the USA and Iran. In such a war Israel is cooked -- literally.

Er what? Such a war would be great for the military balance of Israel, their largest strategic rival in the region would be snuffed out.

The Jordanians, the Saudis and the other gulf states are almost strongly oppose to a rogue and dangerous Iranian presence. Israel is far from the only country opposed to a Radical Iran.

Also, as i've noted, a Radical Iran is a danger to all western countries as well.
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